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    Posted: 09-May-2005 at 11:38

I don't know Shirdan, what is it made of?  But Patsas was included in the Byzantine cuisine... at some point it's difficult to distinquish the origin of some food, especially since so many co-exist in the Balkans.

This is an interesting site: http://www.beeracademy.gr/EN/Sections/Franchising/ArheonGeus eis/Home.asp

It's a chain of restaurants in Greece that specializes in re-creating ancient Greek recepies that survived through the centuries. Unfortunatelly not all of the site is yet translated into English...

Most of the recipes survived in a book called "DeipnoSophistes" by Athenaeus but others come from Homer, Plutarch and many others. Recently Time magazine reffered to this project and, humoursly suggested that it may replace Big Mac with Big Plato

 
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This discussion here makes me feel hungry everytime I read the posts (except the one about "Hagis".)...

@ phallanx

 Anyway, we also have Pacha (Patsas) here in Turkey, but I dont know if it is Greek of Turkish food. And, do you have "shirdan" or anything like that in Greece?
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in albanian we call it kukurec... ive eaten many times my grandfather used to be a butcher so he cooked that for every big holyday.... good good i wish i could eat one more time 
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Kurban i always eat,nice but a bit heavy,i tasted kokorec,it was nice.
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Originally posted by aknc

OH!!!!  I TASTED IT AND.......WOW!!!!

What did you taste? Kurban or Koko.. whatever it was
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OH!!!!  I TASTED IT AND.......WOW!!!!
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Oily maybe not, but greasy the Kurban certainly is!!!!



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Nononono,i wanted to ask if it had a negative fact about it.(exept the things in the interstines)

Is it too oily and stuff?


Oily????
What does oil have to do with it?
It's barbecued not fried.
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Originally posted by Phallanx

You didn't answer my question,will you recommend kokorec?

After all I've posted do you think the answer would be no????

Nononono,i wanted to ask if it had a negative fact about it.(exept the things in the interstines)

Is it too oily and stuff?
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In Versailles there was a combination. Some rooms had extensions at the windows facing the garden, where one could defecate out the window-into the garden. Very practical (not to mention ecological) but a bit smelly

Some others were using pots for that purpose. The servants would clean up in the morning.
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Kokorec - Smells good. Long as its clean, eat em up!

About Versailles, they took dumps in a vase or a large jug. No joke. That is what the tour guide told us during a visit there.


Clean? Oh, man if there isn't anything left in the intestines you lose all the taste.

I heard that the subjects would form a circle facing the opposite direction and his majesty would dump on the floor and then they'd clean up the mess.
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Kokorec - Smells good. Long as its clean, eat em up!

About Versailles, they took dumps in a vase or a large jug. No joke. That is what the tour guide told us during a visit there.
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You didn't answer my question,will you recommend kokorec?

After all I've posted do you think the answer would be no????
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I don't think so
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Is Haggis also banned? -  Haggis:  a traditionally Scottish dish that consists of the heart, liver, and lungs of a sheep or a calf minced with suet, onions, oatmeal, and seasonings boiled in the stomach of the animal
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Originally posted by Phallanx

As if "Frog legs" or a simple "hamburger" is healtier than a 20day old lamb that has fed on nothing more than it's mama's tit

Exactly.Hamburgers should be banned.If they can ban kokorec because of it's "unhealthyness" they should ban hamburgers.Have you ever watched a hamburger ba made in burger king or sth.?Thge guy uses 2 year old gloves,or no gloves covered with dirt and wax,then he slaps your burger with lettuce and stuff.It would be better if you just licked the floor.

You didn't answer my question,will you recommend kokorec?
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There're aren't any! The king would stick his as* out of the window and "dump" on the garden below (that's how the roses got to grow so big

I heard a different story but I like yours better.
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Originally posted by Phallanx


WHERE THE HELL ARE THE TOILETTES???
WHERE DID THE KING TAKE HIS "DUMP"?????
(I'll tell the disgusting story under request)

There're aren't any! The king would stick his as* out of the window and "dump" on the garden below (that's how the roses got to grow so big

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I think it was the whole "crazy cows" thing that knocked them over the head or they just consider it barbaric and disgusting. (they should know)

As if "Frog legs" or a simple "hamburger" is healtier than a 20day old lamb that has fed on nothing more than it's mama's tit....(that's why we call them "galaktos"= milky
There have been literally thousands of studies on what Mc Donalds, Wendy's and all that junk food does to you but we don't see them trying to close down the muti-million $ crap food string.

They try to attack hundreds of years of tradition in the name of "civilization".
When we were eating this stuff in the 12th cent.(to use a much later date) we knew all about civilization they didn't untill 2-300yrs ago.
A good example would be the "palace" (so they call it) of Versailles.

A question for anyone that has been there:

WHERE THE HELL ARE THE TOILETTES???
WHERE DID THE KING TAKE HIS "DUMP"?????
(I'll tell the disgusting story under request)



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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-May-2005 at 02:28
how is it considered unhealthy???  everything is cleaned (in my experiences here in canada)  and no one i've ever known has gotten sick from that.......just the lamb because its so rich, and when you've been fasting for the 40 days, it kinda upsets the stomach (but its well worth it!!)
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