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    Posted: 29-Jan-2012 at 15:40
The fact is that ancient Egyptians were not superhuman, they spoke a language which has been classified under a group, like other languages.
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  Quote medenaywe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Jan-2012 at 14:54
It's the biggest lie has been ever told in history!Go to Origins of languages!We will talk there.Smile
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  Quote Cyrus Shahmiri Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Jan-2012 at 14:35
Ancient Egyptian was an Afroasiatic language, so there could be some similar words to Arabic in this language.
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  Quote Baal Melqart Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Jan-2012 at 14:21
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Ancient Egyptian or people's language in Egypt.This is language from middle text of Rosetta Stone.Smile


Are you saying you speak ancient Egyptian? If that's the case, WOW, simply WOW!
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  Quote medenaywe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Jan-2012 at 13:32
Ancient Egyptian or people's language in Egypt.This is language from middle text of Rosetta Stone.Smile
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  Quote Baal Melqart Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Jan-2012 at 13:13
In what language, I'm not understanding?
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  Quote medenaywe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Jan-2012 at 10:59
"TaY"=TaJ=From Beauty origin,supports destination's image!As I know a lot of beauty and love connects this monument with it's name."Dj" looks also illogical cause animal could have not been included inside this
wonderful reminder of love.SmileTaG=From beauty Head,could also be a solution.Thanks Baal.
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  Quote Baal Melqart Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Jan-2012 at 09:44
Originally posted by medenaywe

I know but have never thought about it since recently.Therefore i am here on forum.Like I said i need your words people.TaJ MaHal=?J sounds like "Dj"?


No Meden, it is a middle 'J' as in the French mustard 'Dijon'. Originally in Arabic that was the accepted pronounciation of the letter 'jim' but since many dialects still prevailed, some later pronounced it as 'dj' or even 'g' for example in Egypt. We shouldn't forget that the Mughals adopted many Arabic words into Urdu and Taj indeed means 'crown' in Arabic.

As far as I know, it's Taj Mahal, not Tadj Mahal.


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  Quote medenaywe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Jan-2012 at 02:22
I know but have never thought about it since recently.Therefore i am here on forum.Like I said i need your words people.TaJ MaHal=?J sounds like "Dj"?
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  Quote Cyrus Shahmiri Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Jan-2012 at 02:16
Mahal means position/place in Persian too, you certainly know Taj Mahal.
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  Quote medenaywe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Jan-2012 at 15:58
"from support destination" is universal Arab!That was first language.That's what i am talking about here!We were there before Alexander.Cause our&Your&Hebrew&Lot of Persian &Turkish languages share the same syllables.Those was people's language Of Egypt from middle text in Rosetta Stone.That's what I am talking about!This was language of actors of Troy also.Cause they called themselves NaDeNaJVeMo and to me it sounds closest to "Danayans" which it means literary!(It sounds similar with My name with Na/DeNaYwe/Mo in front of it).In fact my avatar is singular but not for long!Smile(I know only those above
and Latin also,not other languages?Very possible lot of them also!)
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  Quote Baal Melqart Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Jan-2012 at 15:52
Yes, I lived in Dubai for about 5 years and most Arabs also use both meanings, though shop seems to be the most common one.
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  Quote Arab Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Jan-2012 at 15:35

It means 'place' but we also use it for 'shop' here too and in most Arabic countries it has the same meaning I think

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  Quote medenaywe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Jan-2012 at 15:12
Once it was this:(check Origins of language Baal!)
MaHaLLe=From support destination sparks image!
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  Quote Baal Melqart Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Jan-2012 at 15:08
Originally posted by Ollios

Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri

Yes, Mahalla means the same in Persian, and I think also in Turkish, in fact "Mahalla" is very Arabic word which means quarter (a part of a city with a specific character), Mahallat is the plural form of Mahalla.


Nice place and correct opinion for Turkish. Turkish version is "mahalle" and it is official for address. If you want to send me a post card, you have write my mahalle on it Big smile


In Morocco it means something totally different, it reffers to a 'shop'. In traditional Arabic though, the word originally has other meanings such as: 'position' (in refference to something else) or 'place'.

Example:

لقد لبث في محله
He remained in his place

لا محل له من الاعراب
It has no position/place in grammar (fig. it is grammatically incorrect)


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  Quote Ollios Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Jan-2012 at 14:39
Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri

Yes, Mahalla means the same in Persian, and I think also in Turkish, in fact "Mahalla" is very Arabic word which means quarter (a part of a city with a specific character), Mahallat is the plural form of Mahalla.


Nice place and correct opinion for Turkish. Turkish version is "mahalle" and it is official for address. If you want to send me a post card, you have write my mahalle on it Big smile
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  Quote Arab Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Jan-2012 at 12:26

Interesting, there is an Arabic wiki article about it. But I am unable to find any information about this village in north Iran called "Fakhrabad" فخر اباد My maternal grandmother's family is from there but I know virtually nothing about it.

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  Quote Cyrus Shahmiri Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Jan-2012 at 11:41
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Cyrus, do you know of any village in Fars province of Iran by the name of "Karmostaj" كرمستج My father's family is from there, it would be cool to find out more about my ancestral village
 
I didn't know this village, it seems it was a big town in the old times but a large number of people migrated to the Arab states of the Persian Gulf and there are just 600 familes in this village: http://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%DA%A9%D8%B1%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AC
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  Quote Baal Melqart Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Jan-2012 at 11:35
As usual Qorosh, amazing and beautiful pictures that unearth the hidden past of Persia. It seems that there is a lot travelling one can do in iran, if one is knowledgeable about history!
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  Quote Arab Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Jan-2012 at 10:08
Cyrus, do you know of any village in Fars province of Iran by the name of "Karmostaj" كرمستج My father's family is from there, it would be cool to find out more about my ancestral village
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