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OTChaIAN=second time,i miss T=Nestable dream smokes victim-like mother's!
   Olios look your words above!"Tongue" could be water fails also...splendid water shines same as tongue in our mouth!
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  Quote Don Quixote Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Mar-2012 at 01:34
Thanks, Ollios. I don't know about being exactly an expert, but I'm very interested in it, and in Catal Huyuk also. I studied Bulgarian prehistory in university and since the Balkan prehistory starts in Anatolia, I read whatever I could find on Anatolian prehistory. Up to the time when the Dorians appeared in Greece, Anatolia, Thrace, what is now Greece and Bulgaria were one cultural area; then the Greeks developed differently, while the Thracians retained the older cultural connections and cultural borrowings with/from Anatolia.
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Originally posted by medenaywe

OTChaIAN=second time,i miss T=Nestable dream smokes victim-like mother's!

I don't know if this correction changes much in my interpretation - the general behavior of ancient people when they are desperate is to sacrifice and pray /hence "smoke"/ and hope the answer to come - "dreams" were universally thought to be the answers of deities, in the case I'd suppose other-goddess, since the word "mother's" is here.
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If we compare we need at least 2 things to be compared.So Gobekli here again:
GoBeKLiTePe=Strong promise equals bright prediction and rock!
    Priest gives the promise that prediction will be full filled if you sacrifice to rock!Smile(goods of all kinds and money)
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Originally posted by medenaywe

ChuChu=We&You are throating!
TuTu=We&You are noising!
 I mixed them up!

In this context they are pretty much the same thing - a "noise"/sound comes from one's "throat"; "tu-tu" is what a train does in Bulgarian children's books; "choo-choo" is what the same train does in US children's books.
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Originally posted by medenaywe

OTChaIAN=second time,i miss T=Nestable dream smokes victim-like mother's!

I don't know if this correction changes much in my interpretation - the general behavior of ancient people when they are desperate is to sacrifice and pray /hence "smoke"/ and hope the answer to come - "dreams" were universally thought to be the answers of deities, in the case I'd suppose other-goddess, since the word "mother's" is here.


   I believe it means he looses his breathe cause of nestable dream he can not realize!

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I suppose it can be seen in this way too. One can dream desperately; and one can have a beautiful dream and then one wakes up and he/her heart sinks, because one realizes that it was only a dream.
But still, what is a human without dreams! A wilderness the human heat is, if it cannot dream...better the desperation of non-ability to realize a dream, that lack of a dream at all
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Do You have words for me:"ChoI",ChuI,CheI,...Big smile
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  Quote medenaywe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Mar-2012 at 02:15
It looks like this:There are about 25 consonants X 8 possible vowels=200.So they put I after every of them
cause virtual living world develops around them and terms they really need for everything.200+200=400
+ vocal syllables=500-600... 
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Originally posted by medenaywe

Do You have words for me:"ChoI",ChuI,CheI,...Big smile

In Roma language:
chei-z - girls dowry; the same in Bulgarian
kir-chi-ma - inn, tavern
s-chei-j - gypsy girl
she-cho-rne - homosexual
s-che-ra - head
ta-cho - true
ves-ta-cha - beloved
wor-ta-cha - partner
chai-lo sim - I'm full
cha-chi-mo - truth
cho - your own
khu-cho - jump
chi-le mole - hot sauce
ko-cho - button
cha-hvi - child
chi-ndilo - cut
cho-p - exchange

cho-kesarav - to forge metal
cho-rdane - intelligence service
chor- thief
che-ros - time
chee-b - tongue
cho-te - vinegar
chi-ndilan - weary
chet, chin - write
chavoro - child



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I'll try tomorrow Greek, Latin and Spanish. Now I have to hit the sack.
Good night, world!
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  Quote medenaywe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Mar-2012 at 09:20
I want to comment this one:
chei-z - girls dowry; the same in Bulgarian=
CheI=From Caloric,The First Her=richness or treasure=It is everlasting truth:You are rich one if you have to eat!
CheiZ=Treasurable(Well-escorted/Well-accompanied)tongue!


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kir-chi-ma - inn, tavern=Valuable cognition supports!
s-chei-j - gypsy girl=Presentable treasure originates!
she-cho-rne - homosexual=Hilarious ear sprouts blade!
s-che-ra - head=Presentable food arms!
ta-cho - true=Beautiful ear!
ves-ta-cha - beloved=will fix it later cause here is structure!
wor-ta-cha - partner=Nestable beauty flames!LOLIt is still like that!
chai-lo sim - I'm full=Smoke-like draw readies interior!
cha-chi-mo - truth=Flame-able  cognition  wombs/births!
cho - your own=Hearing!
khu-cho - jump=Equal with curse hears!
chi-le mole - hot sauce=Cognitive image wombs image!
ko-cho - button=Circular ear!
cha-hvi - child=Hearing arrow subordinates!
chi-ndilo - cut=Cognitive mother's admires draw(cut?)!
cho-p - exchange=Hearing liquid(spiting)!LOL

cho-kesarav - to forge metal=Hearing approval conquers arm-like  obedience!
cho-rdane - intelligence service=Hearing sprout agrees blade!
chor- thief=Hearing sprout!
che-ros - time=Caloric root presents!
chee-b - tongue=Overeating(Feasting) order!(Sit,najaden in English please!)
cho-te - vinegar=Hearing prediction!
chi-ndilan - weary=Cognitive mother's admires wing mother's!
chet, chin - write=Caloric dream,learns(cognates)mother's!
chavoro - child=Flame-able Water God roots!


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Originally posted by medenaywe

I want to comment this one:
chei-z - girls dowry; the same in Bulgarian=
CheI=From Caloric,The First Her=richness or treasure=It is everlasting truth:You are rich one if you have to eat!
CheiZ=Treasurable  tongue!

Makes sense. In societies that live on the edge of subsistance if one has enough to eat one is rich, and girl's dowry is treasure that had been built slowly over time since she was little. In Bulgaria this dowry didn't come as money, most of the time at least, but in household things - her mother and she spun and made sheets, towels, made and embroidered pillowcases, bought one by one pans and pots, sew baby clothes, etc, so by the time the girl is ready for marriage she had a almost everything needed to keep a house with. All those things are "treasureable", and necessary for a woman to take care of a family, and many of them are connected with eating.
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  Quote medenaywe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Mar-2012 at 14:04
Cheiz just shows us how poor&hard living have always been on Balkans&everywhere:Give your daughter all
clothes cause House where She is going can not afford it to buy it immediately or those are her favorites!Smile
  Was "From Caloric(Eating),the first her"=treasure/wealth or dowry=what does it means in English?


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There is Cheiza=Two wheeled horse car=Treasure-able gossip!But Cheiz also escorts the bride!
Cheiz=Escort-able tongue!(Escorting tongue!)
CheiZa=Escort-able gossip!(Escorting gossip!)
   We need more words here!Treasure or Escort?!?Big smile  

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Originally posted by medenaywe

There is Cheiza=Two wheeled horse car=Treasure-able gossip!But Cheiz also escorts the bride!
Cheiz=Escort-able tongue!
CheiZa=Escort-able gossip!
   We need more words here!Treasure or Escort?!?Big smile  

cheiz = wood, in Navajo language
Ahchíni-bah-jee-chin— Nahajo - Children’s song meaning “We won’t give the children away,” in a game called “Protecting the Children.”
I need some time to scroll over a Navajo glossary I found online, well get to this later.

The English word "chaise" /carriage with 2 horses/ comes from a French word that can be connected to "escort":
"...1701, "pleasure carriage," from Fr. chaise "chair" (15c.), variant of chaire (see chair) due to 15c.-16c. Parisian accent habit of swapping of -r- and -s-, often satirized by French writers. French chair and chaise then took respectively the senses of "high seat, throne, pulpit" and "chair, seat."..."
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=chaise

sre-do-to-chie = center, Russian
chai-anie = dream, hope, Russian
rui-chai-u = growl, 1st person singular, Russian
rui-cha-g = lever, Russian
ta-cha-nka - a Cossask weapon, something like a machinegun out in a horse-drawn cart, supposedly invented by Nestor Makhno, vary much used by the Black army
File:Taczanka.jpg

che-lo = forehead, Bulgarian
to-chi-lka - a cylindrical piece of wood women make philo pastry with, pressing a dough down to a thin sheet, Bulgarian
to-chi - verb for the above action, Bulgarian
ta-chi - to respect, old usage, Bulgarian

 I'm out of words, and need some dictionary of Slavic languages. I have somewhere a Polish and Check textbooks, but they are stored and I don't know if I can find them right nowConfused Give me some time to check in my boxes with books I have a motorhome full with...maybe I'll luck out and find the said books.





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Ok we have close structure of meaning.Do ou have some
'Choi" and "Chui" forms?Let us fix them all!After that we are going back on "Nj"!
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sre-do-to-chie = center, Russian=Presentable distance shelters cognitive answer!
chai-anie = dream, hope, Russian=Smoking victim courages answer!
rui-chai-u = growl, 1st person singular, Russian=RuI?Still Unknown also!
rui-cha-g = lever, Russian=?
ta-cha-nka - a Cossask weapon, something like a machinegun out in a horse-drawn cart, supposedly invented by Nestor Makhno, vary much used by the Black army=Beautiful flame mother's features!
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  Quote Don Quixote Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Mar-2012 at 15:13
Not in Latin, I've been reading the dict all morning with no results; and I'm out of Bulgarian, Russian and Roman words too. All that is left is Greek, Spanish and Portuguese to check, and if I find the Polish and Czech dbooks. I have to go now, will get here later and hopefully will find more words with "choi" and "chiu".
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