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    Posted: 16-Oct-2012 at 10:29
Originally posted by Mountain Man

Why does everyone persist in thinking that Olmec heads are "negroid"?  Why can't negroid heads be Olmec instead?
Because black people originated in Africa, not the Americas
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Are you certain of that?Evil Smile
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  Quote Nick1986 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Oct-2012 at 06:29
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Are you certain of that?Evil Smile
Unless you can find evidence of the contrary. Why are modern Africans black and modern Native Americans more Asiatic?
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  Quote red clay Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Oct-2012 at 10:06
Got me.  Why are Australoids black and not Asiatic?
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  Quote Nick1986 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Oct-2012 at 09:45
Hard to say. Perhaps they were descended from Africans who colonised India? They may have migrated before the arrival of lighter-skinned invaders
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So, are the Europeans responsible for the ruination of the easter Island native culture?
"...HONOLULU, HAWAII—According to some scholars, the people of Easter Island, or Rapa Nui, committed “environmental suicide” by deforesting their island, an event that led to the society's demographic collapse. But now some archaeologists, including the Bishop Museum's Mara Mulrooney, believe that intepretation of the island's history is wrong. Mulrooney studied 300 radiocarbon dates from Rapa Nui and found that people continued to use the interior of the island to cultivate crops such as sweet potatoes up until European contact. Previously it had been believed that these areas had been abandoned when the island chiefdom supposedly collapsed. "The new picture that emerges from these results is really one of sustainability and continuity rather than collapse, which sheds new light on what we can really learn from Rapa Nui,” said Mulrooney. “Based on these new findings, perhaps Rapa Nui should be the poster-child of how human ingenuity can result in success, rather than failure.” Mulrooney believes that it wasn't until after European contact and the introduction of new diseases that the society underwent demographic collapse...."
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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Dec-2013 at 23:41
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Are you certain of that?Evil Smile


Red Clay, just why would an administrator say such a thing? LOL
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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Dec-2013 at 23:43
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Hard to say. Perhaps they were descended from Africans who colonised India? They may have migrated before the arrival of lighter-skinned invaders



And Saint Nick 1986, just where did these "honkeys" originate?

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  Quote medenaywe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Dec-2013 at 01:01
they had waited for first ships and they migrated.SmileTechnology moved them out.
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  Quote Mountain Man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Dec-2013 at 11:34
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I think the statues were the cause of war and famine. The islanders cut down all the trees to use as rollers to move the statues, resulting in the irreversible erosion of the fertile soil


Actually, the latest studies showed that the statues could have been moved with the use of any rollers at all.

More likely is that the growing population stripped all the timber for building and cooking and similar domestic uses.  Had the wood been used as rollers, a set of them would have been sufficient to move many statues and would not have resulted in removal of all of the forests.

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  Quote Mountain Man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Dec-2013 at 11:37
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Are you certain of that?Evil Smile
Unless you can find evidence of the contrary. Why are modern Africans black and modern Native Americans more Asiatic?


Because the Amerinds migrated to the American continent over the Bering Land Bridge and/or followed the edge of the ice shelf.  There was no bridge from the African continent.  Hence the Amerinds, Innuits and others are Asiatic by ancestry.
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  Quote red clay Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Dec-2013 at 10:05
The islands legends have it that the statues "walked" to their platforms. There are some scientists now that doubt there was ever any heavy forestation on the Island, at least not not enough to be of any consequence and certainly not enough to be relied upon for much by the inhabitants.
 
 
 Hence the Amerinds, Innuits and others are Asiatic by ancestry.
Uh huh, and then there is Kenniwick Man, at approx. 9500 BCE and deffinetly Caucasian.  MM, as we discover more, there seems to be a situation developing where there is more than one correct answer to this question.
 
 
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Edited by red clay - 20-Dec-2013 at 10:27
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  Quote Mountain Man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Dec-2013 at 11:32
Originally posted by red clay

The islands legends have it that the statues "walked" to their platforms. There are some scientists now that doubt there was ever any heavy forestation on the Island, at least not not enough to be of any consequence and certainly not enough to be relied upon for much by the inhabitants.
 
 
 Hence the Amerinds, Innuits and others are Asiatic by ancestry.
Uh huh, and then there is Kenniwick Man, at approx. 9500 BCE and deffinetly Caucasian.  MM, as we discover more, there seems to be a situation developing where there is more than one correct answer to this question.
 
 
And there is also, Hueyatlaco.
 
 
 


i would agree with you except for one small problem...it seems that "caucasians" are now defined as a group that includes " asians".

  • Cau·ca·sian
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  1. white-skinned: relating to people who are light-skinned or of European origin
  2. of former ethnic group: belonging to the light-skinned peoples of Europe, northern Africa, and western and southern Asia, formerly considered a distinct ethnic group
  3. of Caucasia: relating to Caucasia, or its peoples, languages, or cultures

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  Quote Arthur-Robin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Dec-2013 at 16:45
A few different possible connections to be pieced together or dis/proven:

Thats interesting about the statues being unique & with tatoos etc like as if = ancestors.

Statues called Moai which may connect with Moa who "may have been the ancestor of mankind, was given birth to in centre of the earth by earth-mother Papa" [~ Noah? statues holding crux area like ham castrated noah?] (& the Moa birds of NZ, & Sa-Moa?)

I had thought that the stone hats could connect with Atlas motif? (Atlantis = Tiahuanaco/Peru/SouthAmerica.) Polynesians could have come from America rather than gone to America? (Currents. Kon Tiki. Kumara. Uru.) [Old World -> Atlantis/SthAmerica -> EasterIsl? (&, Atlantis/SthAmerica -> Olmec/central America?)] Could the deforestation (& toppled statues) been from catastrophe rather than human?

Some faces/heads from central America look similar to Easter island statues.

(Some faces/heads in other pacific islands look similar to easter island ones.)

However there is also the Indus valley script (& ears) connection. [Indus -> Easter -> SthAmer/Atlantis?]


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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Dec-2013 at 22:09
It is mostly all too complicated by race and culture and time, to ever be explained!
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