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    Posted: 31-Aug-2012 at 19:04
It was the Germans who first bombed civilians and provoked the Allies to respond in kind. Harris' firebombing (in his own words) deprived the Nazis of many future workers and soldiers
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  Quote Nick1986 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Sep-2012 at 20:13
Some Japanese still believe the Nanking Massacre was invented by Chinese propagandists. This sounds very similar to neo-fascist Holocaust denial
http://www.pacificwar.org.au/WarCrimeIntro.html
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That site has a very large bias.
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  Quote Mountain Man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Sep-2012 at 12:55
Originally posted by Nick1986

Some Japanese still believe the Nanking Massacre was invented by Chinese propagandists. This sounds very similar to neo-fascist Holocaust denial
http://www.pacificwar.org.au/WarCrimeIntro.html


What do they think about the thousands of Korean women forced into military prostitution by the Japanese army?  The large population of post-war Japanese-Korean children is more than enough evidence about that issue, as is the apology ultimately demanded by the Korean nation itself a few years ago.

The trouble with history is that it lingers on and and stains the honor of nations long after the atrocities are done.
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  Quote Nick1986 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Sep-2012 at 20:17
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Some Japanese still believe the Nanking Massacre was invented by Chinese propagandists. This sounds very similar to neo-fascist Holocaust denial
http://www.pacificwar.org.au/WarCrimeIntro.html


What do they think about the thousands of Korean women forced into military prostitution by the Japanese army?  The large population of post-war Japanese-Korean children is more than enough evidence about that issue, as is the apology ultimately demanded by the Korean nation itself a few years ago.

The trouble with history is that it lingers on and and stains the honor of nations long after the atrocities are done.

They might respond with some insane conspiracy theory, like modern-day neo-Nazis claiming the Holocaust was committed by the alliesWacko
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  Quote Mountain Man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-Sep-2012 at 19:18
Here's another one for the collection:

Pol Pot:


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  Quote Nick1986 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Sep-2012 at 20:04

Another evil bastard: Ratko Mladic who ordered the mass-execution of many Bosnian Muslims
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  Quote Mountain Man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Sep-2012 at 12:46
Ever notice how the monsters like their military uniforms?  
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It's psychological -  a uniform gves one a different image to hind behind; an exuse fro whatever happens when one is it; a feeling of belonging. It's easier to commit an atrocity when in uniform because it happens in a social role, that is symbolizzed by the uniform.

So monsters can kill babies while in uniform and kiss their own kids when without it - it's like a double life. So they like uniforms. Besides monsters are fragile people, usually with low self-respect that take their own anger on others - so they need the protection of the uniform and the reinforced feeling of belonging it gives.
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  Quote Nick1986 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Sep-2012 at 19:22

A peaked cap and uniform also look more intimidating. Take this Gestapo officer, for example
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  Quote Nick1986 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Sep-2012 at 19:02
We've known this for years, but only now do they make it official: the ordinary Wehrmacht on the Eastern Front were as brutal as the SS
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2206982/I-liked-shoot--women-kids--kind-sport-Secret-Nazi-tapes-reveal-ordinary-German-soldiers-responsible-war-crimes-just-SS.html
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  Quote Nick1986 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Oct-2012 at 11:04
Sometimes Nazi war criminals got a taste of their own medicine. They weren't so tough when they were facing grown men, not helpless women and children
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2223831/How-Britain-tortured-Nazi-PoWs-The-horrifying-interrogation-methods-belie-proud-boast-fought-clean-war.html
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  Quote Azita Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Oct-2012 at 10:54
 
 
Henry Wirz
A forgotton name in much of US history, but does he count as a monster in Uniform?
 
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  Quote Centrix Vigilis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Oct-2012 at 12:24
Yup. He'll do.
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  Quote Salah ad-Din Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Oct-2012 at 14:20
A scapegoat in uniform, maybe.
 
But if this Azita is Historum's former Azita, then he's pure evil just because he lived in America:)
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  Quote Azita Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Oct-2012 at 15:30
Originally posted by Salah ad-Din

 
But if this Azita is Historum's former Azita, then he's pure evil just because he lived in America:)
 
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  Quote Centrix Vigilis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Oct-2012 at 15:46
Originally posted by Salah ad-Din

A scapegoat in uniform, maybe.
 
But if this Azita is Historum's former Azita, then he's pure evil just because he lived in America:)
 
 
 
Ease up Salah and remember keep the personalities out of it. As your last sentence was not necessary.


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But if this Azita is Historum's former Azita, then he's pure evil just because he lived in America:)
 
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  Quote Centrix Vigilis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Oct-2012 at 15:54
As for the thread.
 
Jallianwala Bagh massacre.
 
BG Reginald E.H. Dyer, British India Army, makes the list.
 
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  Quote Azita Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Oct-2012 at 17:21
Ah! the amritsar massacre, much more to this than is often mentioned, especially the events preceding the order to open fire.

I suspect that 1857 was still remembered as well. Still cant be condoned, just better understood.

It is quite a testimony to the British of that time, that they were also outraged and disgusted by the event. and the subsequent changes made

BTW the 1984 massacre was far more bloody.

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