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Centrix Vigilis
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Topic: The Draugr Posted: 15-May-2012 at 19:13 |
Yet despite the best efforts of all your heroes and warriors the draugr seem to have spread south, beyond Iceland, through Scotland and into Northern England and the Midlands.Oh ye of little faith and understanding.....can ya not ken this is why the ancient warriors of old promulgated and then perpetuated their sons and daughters to pick up the great fight no matter the where of.... or the when. You opine remarkably well in your historical presentation...and I remain impressed and pleased with your effort....Yet you have already dismissed what was rendered.....and this is your failing. Where you might dismiss..... they do not...... ''Yepper.... that's a warrior. And if ya can not understand that... then ya can not understand nothing about them or the draugr.'' or anyother evil they combat. and the crowd thundered a vigourous ''Amen''.......
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Posted: 16-May-2012 at 12:30 |
Originally posted by Centrix Vigilis
You opine remarkably well in your historical presentation...and I remain impressed and pleased with your effort....Yet you have already dismissed what was rendered.....and this is your failing. Where you might dismiss..... they do not...... |
Nothing is ever dismissed, only valued.
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Nick1986
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Posted: 16-May-2012 at 19:09 |
Saint Guthlac of Crowland drove out the undead and made his home in their barrow. He was a popular saint in Saxon East Anglia
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Posted: 17-May-2012 at 19:06 |
Guthlac was an odd character who wore animal skins and spent time meditating at pagan holy sites. Perhaps this was an attempt by Christian missionaries to assimilate an older Saxon myth?
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Posted: 17-May-2012 at 19:10 |
Possibly. See my Saints Thread.
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Posted: 18-May-2012 at 02:03 |
Back to the OP. See: Norwegian Folk Narrative in Americahttp://www.naha.stolaf.edu/pubs/nas/volume12/vol12_2.htm
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Posted: 18-May-2012 at 20:01 |
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Posted: 19-May-2012 at 06:23 |
Cheers CV. So the draug where in more modern times seen as specifically sea spirits, rather than the walking dead in general. Guess there's something there in the Icelandic tales where the seals are linked with the hauntings. Links to the kelpie and mermaids perhaps?
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Posted: 19-May-2012 at 06:25 |
Thanks Nick. Unfortunately it doesn't give the whole text. Did a search, and this site has the whole work, in original, translation, and with notes;
http://archive.org/stream/anglosaxonversio00guthrich#page/n5/mode/2up
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