History of Genocide

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In the thirteenth century I should have added.

You are simply and easily lying....... This is very shameful for you.

The biggest proof of your lies is the number that you had given as Assyrian population number. Do you seriously claim that there were 2.000.000 Assyrian population in the Ottoman Empire? Do you think people so idiot to believe in such things? At least try to be more realistic. 

The biggest lie is in fact your identity. You call yourself as Suryoyo not Assyrians. You do not have anything with real Assyrians of 3000 years ego except a shared Semitic language but surely different one of ancient people Assyrians.

You can sell your lies to ignorant Europeans and American but not Turks.

The issue of Genocide will not leave Turkey now.

A fundamental issue of how Turkey regards Human life is the foremost issue concerning whether Turkey is capable of being assimilated into the EU.

All nations have committed atrocities, but how they go about acknowledging and making amends for these historical wrongs is an important indicator of their Cultural sophistication.

The issue of acknowledgment and serious attempts at reconciliation after of critical importance, not just for the Nation concerned but humanity as a whole.

Turkey in 1914 is a pivotal point on the road to mass killing. Indeed German Army Officers who served in Turkey and witnessed the slaughters in the 1900's brought back to Germany many experiences and ideas that would reemerge in Nazi Germany in the 40's.

No action like Mass Murder can exist in isolation as a discrete event. Its influence can spread across decades , ideology and nations.

Therefore it is of critical importance for everybody to acknowledge the skeletons in their closets/ or land as the case maybe and to learn the lessons.

Denial gains nothing.

That the Turks are intensely loathed across Europe and Asia by those peoples who have been subjugated by them speaks volumes for what is now denied and swept under the carpet.

These voices will not go away. It is time for Turks really to set their house in order. Denials are a recipe for a repeat of the kind of mistakes that should have been laid to rest in the history books.

It is time to ask yourselves how and why should a country like Britain or France be regarded with a considerable degree of affection by their former 'subjects' , when today in contrast you are plagued by reminders of the past you refuse to acknowledge.

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i live to serve.Satisfied?

� do not belive you are a liar.People were killed yes,but not 1 900 000 and not to make turkey islamic.I posted a very nice poem to explin it(my signature)We killed each other.

I am the person that says that assyrians were killed,but not at a genocide level.

Who are you to say thier was no Assyrian Genocide

I am the person that had a relative who's c orpse was raped by an entire greek patrol,i am the person that is the friend of someone who's baby armenians cooked and fed,i am the person who's grandfather went mad because of the very subject.enough?

OK. No problem.

We will also ask the genocide that they did to Turks. We will not leave it too. And this issue will continue forever. 

So you have to start the job from how Armenians, Greeks, and their imperialist masters regards human life.

You wrote an interesting sentence such as "assimilating into the EU". Are Britons, Greeks, Swedes assimilated into EU? Do you know what assimilation is?

We will not learn our history from you. What do you know about Turkey? What do you know about Turkish history? Which books did you read on Turkish history? Is it free for an Armenian to kill Turks according to you?

How do you justify a group of people whose population is almost %20 of the region and claim right on this region to establish Greater Armenia? I have posted previously the soft Armenian Hunchak Party's program which has been established at 1887. You can read their aims from the link below which is their own link.  

Here you are some parts of their party program.

http://www.hunchak.org.au/aboutus/historical_program1887.htm l

"The Hunchakian program advocated revolution as the only means of reaching the immediate objective. The arena of revolutionary activity was designed as Turkish Armenia. The Party believed that the existing social organisation in Turkish Armenia could be changed by violence against the Turkish government and described the following methods. Propaganda, Agitation, Terror, "

"Agitation and Terror were needed to "elevate the spirit of the people"

I think like this. If Armenains apologie from what they did in Anatolia Turks will apologie too. This is reconciliation. If you are talking about humans you have to know that there are two parts of the story and Turks are humans too.

Do not be silly and be rational. You cannot blame Turkey because of the crimes of Nazi Germany. You are in a position of a Nazi by blaming Turks like this. First criticise yourself. 

It is you who are denying that there was not an Armenian genocide. And yes denial gains nothing.

Our voices will not go away too. We do not need to learn from you if Turks need to set their house in order. You are not the one that you can tell us something like this. Look at your own bussiness.

But if you realy want to warn the ones who should set their houses in order say it to Armenians. %20 of Azerbaycan territories have been invaded by Armenians.  

You can educate yourself from these links.

http://karabakh-doc.azerall.info/ru/eng_documents.htm

 You remember abusing, murdering of people by Britain and French who are colonised by force as almost good thing. "Glory days of colonial times", " we brought civiliztion" .......

Do you know how Karl Marx had got his ideology of Marxism? After seeing the working conditions in Britain. The poor people were forced to work in exchange to feed themselves to stay alive. The massacres and forced labor were very common in colonial Britain and French. Europeans have butchered people of a whole continent, America. You have massacred millions in Africa. French is still involving in massacres in Rwanda. Remember Opium wars, British crimes in India, French crimes in Algeria, genocide in Congo by Belgium......etc.

USA was attacking Vietnam in the name of "free world" after French attacked Vietnam and kicked out from there. While USA was acting in Vietnam in the name of free wold killing 3 millions Vietnamese, in USA black skinned people could not go to universities because of their skin colors. But great majority of the world were believing that USA was representing the free world. Such freedom!!!!!

Your concept of affection in former British and French colonies must be similar to this freedom if it really exists such thing.

In Ottoman Empire there were Armenian ministers. In 1914 the foreign minister was an Armenian if I am not mistaken. They were free of doing every activities that they want from trade to education. You cannot compare Turkish rule and colonial rule of imperialists. The difference is huge.   

THIS IS DIRECTED AT ALL SIDES OF ANY GENOCIDE DEBATE:

I really have to say the reasons many people still have such issues with this topic is because of this "my relative was killed by so and so" Look, as far as Im concerned if it happened before you were born it never directl affected you.  Long term cycles of revenge lead to what we see now in Palestine and Israel.  Does anyone that cares for their nation want to keep such infantile arguments going?  Judge a situation based on how it directly affects you, not some relative you never met whose only influence on you is for you to wave around for geneology to claim the moral high ground.

If I was to be mad at countries or peoples who killed relatives of mine I would be mad at alot of people right now!  But I dont, and to blame a whole country or people for such things is also preposterous.  Say a close relative of mine is murdered in New York, should I hate all New Yorkers?  Should I say New York as a whole must be accountabel for its crimes? No thats silly, the same goes for ethnic groups.  Every single immediate relative of my grandmother suffered a horrific death via incendiary bombing, but I didnt know any of them personally so why should I be mad, even if I did know them personally, why after all this time should I stay made at people who pulled a lever on a plane that helped bring a war to its end sooner?

You all probably wont agree with me, but think upon it, realize there is common ground, and there is room for compromise, and also realize you are neither the victim nor perpetrator of genocide unles syou yourself were there.