James the Shit - History Forum ~ All Empires

What do the modern Scots and Irish think of Seamus an Chaca? Was he as unpopular there as he was in England?

Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains!

Well ... he was given that name for a reason, to be sure.

Is í labhairt a dteanga an moladh is mó is féidir linn a thabhairt dár namhaid.

Seems like he's viewed as a coward for leaving his men to die. Why does James have this bad reputation, and not Bonnie Prince Charlie who also fled to the continent after Culloden?

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After the Battle of the Boyne, I believe.

Is í labhairt a dteanga an moladh is mó is féidir linn a thabhairt dár namhaid.

Originally posted by Centrix Vigilis

Because he was a foppy looking, born again Catholic, Scots-English-French half breed king, who didn't give a damn about the Irish other then their fighting abilities had forgotten what happened to his old man and continued to ignore the ongoing tide of rabid anti-Catholicism.

Besides the Scots will never disown the Charlie...when it comes to a line of eventually fat Germans as overlords.

Charlie, or as I have referred to him elsewhere,Kid Shortbried, was only about one-eigth Scots. He also didn't give a monkeys about the men he used, abused and abandoned.

For money you did what guns could not do.........

Originally posted by Cookie

Originally posted by Centrix Vigilis

Because he was a foggy looking, born again Catholic, Scots-English-French half breed king, who didn't give a damn about the Irish other then their fighting abilities had forgotten what happened to his old man and continued to ignore the ongoing tide of rabid anti-Catholicism.

Besides the Scots will never disown the Charlie...when it comes to a line of eventually fat Germans as overlords.

Charlie, or as I have referred to him elsewhere,Kid Shortbread, was only about one-eighth Scots. He also didn't give a monkeys about the men he used, abused and abandoned.

A practical and inconvenient truth but does little harm to Charlie's overall natural or created legacy Chookie.

The last time anybody beyond a generation 2-4xer (read born after 1975) in Scotland gave a dose of the claps for an English King/royalty would be hard to substantiate, if one is led to believe in the standard rhetoric. Diana and the Princes aside...it is simply not the nature that is portrayed.

So as I note Charlie is safe in the pantheon of defeated Jacobin hero's.

Edited by Centrix Vigilis - 17-Sep-2011 at 20:05

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Originally posted by Nick1986

I can understand why many modern Scots are republican. Charlie allowed his line to die out by having kids with every woman except his wife. His brother never married because, being a Catholic bishop, he preferred boys

Preposterous comment Nick, reflects very badly on yourself and the administration, not to mention the site as a whole, when moderators make comments like that.

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Is í labhairt a dteanga an moladh is mó is féidir linn a thabhairt dár namhaid.

Arra, that's not the point and you know it. Your implication is offensive at best and sectarian at worst.

Is í labhairt a dteanga an moladh is mó is féidir linn a thabhairt dár namhaid.