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    Posted: 17-May-2011 at 02:22
Originally posted by opuslola


Besides it might well seem that some of you might well have had a problem with me at the site you have abandoned or have been exciled from? Just how would I know?

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We have never met, Ron.


My guess is...You're just pissed that I had the audacity to disagree with your opinion in another thread.  Wink
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  Quote red clay Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-May-2011 at 19:02
Besides it might well seem that some of you might well have had a problem with me at the site you have abandoned or have been exciled from? Just how would I know?

 
 
Flaming arrows might be a strong indicator.
 
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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-May-2011 at 17:12
Actually, gentelmen and ladies, I feel no pain towards your problems on other sites.

I can only welcome you all here, and I expect all of you to not stand by your alleged past, postings, upon another site!

I will treat all of you as mostly equal with any other new member!

I think that is only fair?

Besides it might well seem that some of you might well have had a problem with me at the site you have abandoned or have been exciled from? Just how would I know?

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  Quote TheAlaniDragonRising Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-May-2011 at 17:08
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How did you know it was in the chamber?

If you aren't logged in. You can not view threads which are in the chamber.

What I meant was how did you know what thread I was on which lead you to the chamber?

When you joined this board, you mentioned your grievance with Historum. I think it was unclefred? who commented "there is no chamber here"

Have I got it wrong, Alani ?

Indeed that is so.LOL
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How did you know it was in the chamber?

If you aren't logged in. You can not view threads which are in the chamber.

What I meant was how did you know what thread I was on which lead you to the chamber?

When you joined this board, you mentioned your grievance with Historum. I think it was unclefred? who commented "there is no chamber here"

Have I got it wrong, Alani ?
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  Quote TheAlaniDragonRising Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-May-2011 at 16:55
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Originally posted by TheAlaniDragonRising

How did you know it was in the chamber?

If you aren't logged in. You can not view threads which are in the chamber.

What I meant was how did you know what thread I was on which lead you to the chamber?
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  Quote TheAlaniDragonRising Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-May-2011 at 16:52
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Their demands for private discussion is disturbing. During my time as moderator i always discussed issues openly so all the established members could provide feedback. If you keep it to yourself and the moderator it looks like you have something to hide and it is unlikely other members will intervene when you are suspended, viewing you as a mere troll rather than someone concerned about the future of the forum.

Had they told me it was an argument(row) instead of an argument(based on logic progression of points) and told me it was better suited to be in private, or to finish there, I would have known the situation. The administrator suggested my position might have encouraged others to back my position against the moderator.
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  Quote PADDYBOY Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-May-2011 at 16:48
Originally posted by TheAlaniDragonRising

How did you know it was in the chamber?

If you aren't logged in. You can not view threads which are in the chamber.
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  Quote PADDYBOY Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-May-2011 at 16:46
The purpose behind the time out room, was that a member who disrupted a thread ? would be removed from the thread and sent to the time out room were they could scream blue-murder if they chose to. Other members could support them or condemn them. If the mod(s) got it wrong, they would soon be told by the other members.
It also left the thread free and open to those members who happened to be enjoying it.

The time out room was one of the first casualties of the new admin.......


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Alani. I haven't logged into Historum for a while now and as the thread you're talking about is in the chamber or closed or whatever ? I have no way of reading it.
Even if I could read it. I probably would not be able to explain why you were suspended....Believe it or not, I never bothered to read the rules when I was an acting moderator and as there are a lot more rules now. I'd be completely clueless  Confused 

I have no intention of returning to Historum, so I'm afraid I can't help you with this.

How did you know it was in the chamber?
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  Quote Nick1986 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-May-2011 at 16:20
Their demands for private discussion is disturbing. During my time as moderator i always discussed issues openly so all the established members could provide feedback. If you keep it to yourself and the moderator it looks like you have something to hide and it is unlikely other members will intervene when you are suspended, viewing you as a mere troll rather than someone concerned about the future of the forum.
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  Quote PADDYBOY Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-May-2011 at 16:19
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Originally posted by PADDYBOY

Righty ho, then
Just for clarity, I would like to point out that my main gripe with any forum when it gets heavily populated, is the way they tend to close, remove threads whenever a troublesome troll enters the discussion. My view has always been that the troll should be removed or punished or whatever ?
The problem with closing or moving threads is that it encourages trolls rather than deterring them.
If someone dosen't like a topic, for whatever reason. They cause a bit of bother and a mod closes the thread.....Troll wins.

That's why I came up with the idea of the time out room.

As for the new admin at Historum. I wasn't a moderator when they arrived, so I can't really comment on how good or bad they are...

I was referring to other boards I used to participate in, but no longer do because they got so large they became de-personalized...  

I had to nip out there.....Anyways, I was also a member of this board, long ago. I used a different user name at the time and I was also a member of a fledgling Historum.
I am of the opinion that larger boards tend to destroy themselves for the very reasons you have given and that is why I believe that this forum will rise again.

I hope that clears things.


Hey, that thread I was on at the other place when I had my temporary exclusion was closed down two days before I was allowed back on the site, and by the person who had excluded me. I wasn't trolling, and looking at the thread it's difficult to see why they closed it down. They did have me on a technical point of discussing a point with the moderator on the thread, even though they didn't advise me that it was such a discussion which should have been done in private. The only thing they did tell me was that what I was discussing was off topic, which was a lie. When the page came up telling me of my temp ban these were the two things that were explained to me for my ban.   

Alani. I haven't logged into Historum for a while now and as the thread you're talking about is in the chamber or closed or whatever ? I have no way of reading it.
Even if I could read it. I probably would not be able to explain why you were suspended....Believe it or not, I never bothered to read the rules when I was an acting moderator and as there are a lot more rules now. I'd be completely clueless  Confused 

I have no intention of returning to Historum, so I'm afraid I can't help you with this.
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  Quote TheAlaniDragonRising Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-May-2011 at 15:56
Originally posted by PADDYBOY

Righty ho, then
Just for clarity, I would like to point out that my main gripe with any forum when it gets heavily populated, is the way they tend to close, remove threads whenever a troublesome troll enters the discussion. My view has always been that the troll should be removed or punished or whatever ?
The problem with closing or moving threads is that it encourages trolls rather than deterring them.
If someone dosen't like a topic, for whatever reason. They cause a bit of bother and a mod closes the thread.....Troll wins.

That's why I came up with the idea of the time out room.

As for the new admin at Historum. I wasn't a moderator when they arrived, so I can't really comment on how good or bad they are...

I was referring to other boards I used to participate in, but no longer do because they got so large they became de-personalized...  

I had to nip out there.....Anyways, I was also a member of this board, long ago. I used a different user name at the time and I was also a member of a fledgling Historum.
I am of the opinion that larger boards tend to destroy themselves for the very reasons you have given and that is why I believe that this forum will rise again.

I hope that clears things.


Hey, that thread I was on at the other place when I had my temporary exclusion was closed down two days before I was allowed back on the site, and by the person who had excluded me. I wasn't trolling, and looking at the thread it's difficult to see why they closed it down. They did have me on a technical point of discussing a point with the moderator on the thread, even though they didn't advise me that it was such a discussion which should have been done in private. The only thing they did tell me was that what I was discussing was off topic, which was a lie. When the page came up telling me of my temp ban these were the two things that were explained to me for my ban.   
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  Quote PADDYBOY Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-May-2011 at 14:28
Originally posted by Toltec


 
 
This forum at its height outstripped Historum, the question is whether it can rise again. With the number of quality original and recent Historum members coming here some of whom as you well know were responsible for building Historum, further encouraging more of their old friends to join, there's a real chance what you say will happen.
 
Myself I have no gripe about what's happened at Historum or what it has recently become. It's a free forum, never look a gift horse in the mouth and if you don't like it the burden is on you to make something better, not to whinge. I think the owners of forum can do whatever they please with it, sometimes I see owners make dumb decisions, there choice, sometimes economic based decisions and sometimes very profound ones. It's up to them, as my opinion of them is up to me. As for the moderation policy, I'm oblivious to it, never read a rule on any forum I ever joined, never will and will post the same as ever till hell freezes over. If people like the way I post, so what, if they don't so what too. Just as how the owner run the forum it's none of my business,  the burden of action fall upon the staff to do something about it not me as what goes through my brain is none of their business, if they don't like it their problen, their burden to act, I'm not listening, I'm a posting constant.
 
Myself my main gripe about Historum nowadays is not ownership, moderation but membership, you bother to take the time to make a well researched post and 47 people reply within 4 mins making assinine comments not having even bothered to even read the OP. Why did I bother? It's become more like a social board than a history one. There's an intelligent post about Seppuku describing the nature and historical context of this ceremony. A load of people replied, swamping it with one sentence ignorance of  I'm against suicide it's morally wrong. What braindead morons. Do they even know what history is? I see these type of members increasing by the day and historians leaving.
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Righty ho, then
Just for clarity, I would like to point out that my main gripe with any forum when it gets heavily populated, is the way they tend to close, remove threads whenever a troublesome troll enters the discussion. My view has always been that the troll should be removed or punished or whatever ?
The problem with closing or moving threads is that it encourages trolls rather than deterring them.
If someone dosen't like a topic, for whatever reason. They cause a bit of bother and a mod closes the thread.....Troll wins.

That's why I came up with the idea of the time out room.

As for the new admin at Historum. I wasn't a moderator when they arrived, so I can't really comment on how good or bad they are...

I was referring to other boards I used to participate in, but no longer do because they got so large they became de-personalized...  

I had to nip out there.....Anyways, I was also a member of this board, long ago. I used a different user name at the time and I was also a member of a fledgling Historum.
I am of the opinion that larger boards tend to destroy themselves for the very reasons you have given and that is why I believe that this forum will rise again.

I hope that clears things.



Edited by PADDYBOY - 16-May-2011 at 15:02
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  Quote red clay Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-May-2011 at 13:43
Neither Cyrus or I would buy into that bull.  And if someone tried a clandestine take over of the forum, Cyrus has created some significant defense measures, other than my little buddies, the Flesh Eating Nanobots, that is.Evil Smile 
 
The main reason for posting this was to alert anyone else associated with a site.
 
 
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  Quote Toltec Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-May-2011 at 13:41
Originally posted by PADDYBOY

 Give it two or three years and I reckon this site will be more popular than Historum (call it instinct).
When that happens, you guys will be targeted big time. So I'm hoping you will hold out....Otherwise, I'll be looking for somewhere else to hang out.  Cry 

This sort of thing has happened to me on other sites and it sucks to watch a forum grow into a thriving community and then see it ruined by these gits...Angry
 
 
This forum at its height outstripped Historum, the question is whether it can rise again. With the number of quality original and recent Historum members coming here some of whom as you well know were responsible for building Historum, further encouraging more of their old friends to join, there's a real chance what you say will happen.
 
Myself I have no gripe about what's happened at Historum or what it has recently become. It's a free forum, never look a gift horse in the mouth and if you don't like it the burden is on you to make something better, not to whinge. I think the owners of forum can do whatever they please with it, sometimes I see forum owners make dumb decisions, there choice, sometimes economic based decisions and sometimes very profound ones. It's up to them, as my opinion of them is up to me. As for the moderation policy, I'm oblivious to it, never read a rule on any forum I ever joined, never will and will post the same as ever till hell freezes over. If people like the way I post, so what, if they don't so what too. Just as with how the owners run the forum, it's none of my business, the burden of action fall upon the staff to do something about it if they don't like it, not me, as what goes through my brain is none of their business, if they don't like it its their problen, their burden to act, I'm not listening, I'm not interested in what they have to say. If I pm'd them and dictated to them how to run a their forum, they'd rightfully ignore it and delete it. If they pm me and tell me how to think, I'll rightfully do the same.
 
Myself my main gripe about Historum nowadays is not ownership, moderation but membership, you bother to take the time to make a well researched post and 47 people reply within 4 mins making assinine comments not having even bothered to even read the OP. Why did I bother? It's become more like a social board than a history one. There's an intelligent post about Seppuku describing the nature and historical context of this ceremony. A load of people replied, swamping it with one sentence ignorance of  I'm against suicide it's morally wrong. What braindead morons. Do they even know what history is? I see these type of members increasing by the day and historians leaving.


Edited by Toltec - 16-May-2011 at 14:22
Stupidity got us into this mess, why can't it get us out?

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we are on the air again people!Empire strikes back!

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hmmmmmmmmmmmm .... quite so.


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