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El Dorado- Fact or Fiction?

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Poll Question: Is El Dorado an unreal fable, or a true Society?
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    Posted: 11-Apr-2005 at 20:33
     Remember, Guyana and Venezula have still been deeply deserted.
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-Apr-2005 at 01:07
The amound of Gold extracted from the Cultures middle/south america is truly incredible, the first sources of these stories were the local indians the explorers talked to. Dispite the fact that the ameri-indians were extreamly decentralized and isolated from one another, myths and stories of such things could be passed along and extravigated from tribe to tribe. most of these people were neolithic and the most gold they ever saw were very small amounts in pendants and such. The existance of the city states of Mexico and central america.. not to mentions Cuzco of the Inca would definetly make a few unrelated stories of "city of gold" definetly run around.
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Naw, A city out of gold? No way. Maybe a ritual offering, but not a city.
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Beautiful myth, sums up all the ambitions of the Spaniards to plunder more gold.
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  Quote Reginmund Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-May-2005 at 08:07
There is an interesting and quite entertaining German movie which is based on the myth of El Dorado, title is "Aguierre - Zorn des Gottes" (Wrath of God). In this movie, the Indians have invented the myth of El Dorado just to lure the Spaniards away from their actual settlements, and send them off to a hopeless grailhunt which ultimately ends in their demise.

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A large amount of gold in circulation during the XVII, XVIII and XIX century came from the mines of Guanajuato and Zacatecas in Mexico.

Not counting of course the Gold extracted from California once it was stolen from Mexico.
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  Quote Aygucu Tonyukuk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Jul-2005 at 16:31
A Turkish saying is "Ate olmayan yerden duman kmaz." meaning "There is no smoke if there is no fire.". Even if El Dorado is out of our mind, there was a place like El Dorado, in my opinion.
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  Quote Maju Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Jul-2005 at 17:18
Originally posted by Reginmund

There is an interesting and quite entertaining German movie which is based on the myth of El Dorado, title is "Aguierre - Zorn des Gottes" (Wrath of God). In this movie, the Indians have invented the myth of El Dorado just to lure the Spaniards away from their actual settlements, and send them off to a hopeless grailhunt which ultimately ends in their demise.


Right, they wanted the Spaniards to go away.

Myth!

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Though another ulterior film, Eldorado (with Omero Antonutti as Aguirre), is surely much more accurate. The Wrath of God depicts Aguirre simply as a madman, while he was much more: he was the first Latin American creole rebel.

The issue is that, being Basque, he was to be considered as hidalgo (esquire) in all Castilian territories but a judge condemned him to be flogged, a punishment for commoners. So he followed and killed the judge. For this reason, the Viceroy sent him to such risky expedition, where he eventually rebelled... travelled all the Amazon and took Isla Margarita, writing to Chearles V long letters explaining the reasons of his rebellion an how his rule wasn't valid in the New Lands (what is considered by many as very early, though doomed, attempt of liberation of Latin America) crossing to the mainland in attempt to take Panama, but he was defeated near Barquisimeto and then he killed his mestizo daughter "so she wouldn't be used as cushion" by his enemies.

Much more in Aguirre than the madman of The Wrath of God.
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  Quote Togodumnus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Jul-2005 at 02:56
I can appreciate the ability of the native Americans to keep a straight face when they told their incredulous tales of Eldarado to the poor saps who hunted and died seeking for it.It was at least one way to rid themselves of the pestilence.Bless E.A.Poe,he captured the essence of it in his poem.

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