Ancient Jews were Kurds

Originally posted by MediaWarLord Originally posted by Putty19 Originally posted by MediaWarLord You're very funny. And what was the area called before Urartu? Exactly before Urartu it was a Mittani Kingdom, Gutium, Karduniash (Kassite Empire / Neo-Babylon) etc. All those ancient people are part of the modern Kurds nowadays.   I don't know your deffinition of North Mesopotamia. But the capital of Kurdistan is Amed and it is located in North Mesopotamia. This is the place where the ancient Jews are from. Is Amed Assyrian too?   And what was ancient Assyria? Ancient Assyria was not more than 2 or 3 villages around Nineveh. It was not a big empire like some Assyrian resources make us to believe.   I don't care which names were given to those lands in the past, but they were always inhabited by the Kurds. Like now when we are talking about Kurdistan, we're talking about North Iraq, West Iran, Southeast Turkey.   When that land was called Urartu, Roman Empire etc. Kurds lived there. I don't know why, but people like to give different names to Kurdistan. Occupiers come and go, they change the name of our country. But Kurds stay faithful to their land and culture! Get it through your thick skull, there was no such thing as Kurdistan before Urartu, Mitanni was Mitanni, not Kurdistan. Assyria was northern Mesopotamia which included modern province of Nineveh and big portions of Dohuk and Arbil in Iraq, stretching across Northeast Syria and portions of Southeast Turkey where the province of Urfa and Mardin are, in fact the last standing Assyrian capital was Harran, and that's located in Southeast Turkey near Urfa. This entire area was dominated by a population that spoke Syriac, not Kurdish, today Arabic and Kurdish are dominating and the Assyrian Christians are being kicked out, so before you talk about occupiers I think you should think a little before posting. Once more, I have nothing against Kurds and I support an independent Kurdistan, but people like you are an embarrassment, once again, I'm done discussing with your racist narrow minded unintellectual brain, good day. That's a lie! Everything above Nineveh was always inhabited by the Yezidis (Kurds before Islam). Yezidi holy place, Lalish is located there. And the Yezidism is much older than the whole fake Assyrian empire. So that makes you a newcomer.   It’s not yet prohibit to believe in your own fake history, but don’t spread lies!

Then maybe you should educate your own Yezidies on what they believe in, because according to them, they come from India

http://www.yeziditruth.org/the_yezidis

Dude, you've been embarrassing yourself from the moment you started posting, I don't even know why I bother, ok MediaWarLord, the Kurds were the first people to inhabit the promised land of Kurdistan, in fact Kurdistan stretches from India all the way to Spain and the Kurds were the first humans created by God, Adam, Abraham, Noah, Jesus, Moses, Mohammad, were all Kurds and the world owes the Kurds everything, am I missing anything else? LOL, this is such a funny joke, good day.

What the hell do you mean by fake Assyrian, the Neo-Assyrians? Sorry man but I think it would be pushing it to say that Kurds were in norther mesopotamia before the Assyrians.

Originally posted by Baal Melqart What the hell do you mean by fake Assyrian, the Neo-Assyrians? Sorry man but I think it would be pushing it to say that Kurds were in norther mesopotamia before the Assyrians.

The  main objection I get here is that the ancient people who lived in upper parts of Mesopotamia (Kurdistan) were not (modern) Kurds.

Edited by MediaWarLord - 10-Apr-2011 at 17:07

Media, you have the stupidest mentality I have ever seen, your parents must have dropped you on your head a few times when you were a kid because everything that you said is absolutely stupid and retarded, you don't know anything about genetics and history so it's better to keep the mouth shut than look stupid, because that's what you look like right now, a pure fool.

The crap you say is like equivalent to what a 4 year old would say, I'm glad no one on this site takes you seriously because whoever does take you seriously has something wrong with them, I bet even your own Kurdish kakas probably laugh at your stupid remarks.

The fact that you call Assyrians Arab Christians is a sign of pure stupidity, good job, I can't wait to see what other stupid and foolish stuff you're gonna write, I agree with Arab, Kurds must have laser beams shooting from their eyes




Edited by Putty19 - 10-Apr-2011 at 18:53

You're waiting for scientific evidences? 

How about you show me scientific evidence that God was a Kurd

Also it's not my fault that you're getting treated like a child, if you act like one you'll be treated as one, and your remarks resemble what a 4 year old would write.


Edited by Putty19 - 10-Apr-2011 at 19:26

Nice Jewish-Kurdish site!

Edited by MediaWarLord - 10-Apr-2011 at 20:01

So because this says that the Jews have a non-Semitic origin and are related to Kurds, Turks, and Armenians then that makes them Kurds? Here's a thought, they also said Turks and Armenians, the Kurds are either Turks or Armenians then? I guess the saying of Mountains Turks which is directed toward the Kurds may be true after all 

Here's a thought, ever thought of actually looking at human migration prior to the rise of civilizations? Yea, that helps, and next time it would help if you provided an up to date study, not something ancient from 2001.

One more thing, it's always a wise idea to take your Kurdish hat and Kurdish sunglasses off before talking about this stuff, because when you talk you trip all over your words which makes it hard for anyone to take you seriously, mind you you have a lot to learn (A LOT), in a nutshell, I will try this one last time with you, if you don't get it then you can continue this funny act by yourself while the rest of us will laugh at you.

The Jews are not Kurds and the Kurds are not Jews, just as the Assyrians are not Arabs as you claimed, in fact the Assyrians are closest to the Armenians and Oriental (Iraqi/Iranian) Jews and pretty far from Arabs (Bedouins and Gulf), this whole thing stems out of the geographical location of these populations, Kurds are a mix of Caucasian/Iranian people due to their location in Eastern Anatolia/Zagros, while the Assyrians fit exactly in North Mesopotamia and are a mix of Caucasian/Semitic speakers from the Levant, read the latest West Asian analysis:

http://dodecad.blogspot.com/2011/04/structure-in-west-asian-indo-european.html

The Assyrians sit in the middle between the Armenians and Syrians/Lebanese (But much closer to the Armenians), meaning they carry mostly a Caucasian mix along with a bit of Semitic Levantine mix (Possibly ancient Amorite and Aramean for most part), this mix also cannot be Arab because the Arab wave brought Islam to the land, the Assyrians are not a Muslim people, and those who converted no longer identify with being Assyrian since they lost the language and culture.

On the same analysis, there was one Kurdish person included, basically here were the clusters and its participants:



The Kurd ended up in cluster 2 with the Iranians and Azeri (The Iranians were a mix of Persian/Azeri/Luri), and every single Assyrian sample ended up in cluster 6 with the majority of the Armenians, if they were mostly of Arab origin, they would end up in the same cluster with Syrians/Lebanese, not Armenians.

The conclusion for the Assyrians is they are the remnant of the Hurrians who mixed with Semitic migrants, slaves, and invaders (Akkadians, Amorites, Arameans, and Hebrews for most part), while the Kurds were possibly the remnant of Hurrian tribes that lived in Urartu yet mixed with Iranian invaders, and the Armenians were also possibly a mix of Hurrians of Urartu that mixed with West Anatolians such as the Hitties, this scenario explains why Kurds, Assyrians, and Armenians all have potential similar ancestry, but are so different and speak separate languages.

Ok you're right, you continue your funny clown crap by yourself then while the rest of us laugh at you

Originally posted by MediaWarLord Semitic Assyrians have been living in and next to Kurdistan for more than 3000 years ago, of course they mixed a little bit with the Hurrians and other proto-Kurds. Assyrian is a Semitic language that is from the south, like Arabic or even Hebrew. The language arose somewhere in Arabia or maybe even in Southern or Central Iraq. But not in Kurdistan. People of Kurdistan spoke Hurrian and IE languages, like Mitanni.   Iraqi Y-DNA haplogroup distribution. Even Iraqis are mixed with the Hurrians and other proto-Kurds.   http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml

We all agree that Assyrians are Semites and speak a Semitic language. What we don't agree with is your statement about the language evolving in Arabia which is ridiculous at best. Assyrian was closer to Phoenician/Hebrew so they are Semites of the Levant who also, as Putty said, mixed with eastern peoples like the Akkadians. The Arabic language evolved separately from the south of the peninsula.

I also disgaree with your claim that Armenians are a mix of Assyrians and Gypsies.