Turks in the balkans???

Hi

I wrote wrongly.. i ment instead Macedonia, former republic of yugoslavia..

Who did became minority all around Empire after fail of Rome!?!This premise explain all European and World history after?


Edited by medenaywe - 06-Feb-2011 at 08:10

Near by You!?!So you already have readed that three rulers ruled together all known ancient world.
 They even used similar language."DeReDzE","PeNDzeRe",etc.are words (among lot of others)shared by lot of national official languages today on Balkans.Asia Minor is crossroad of civilizations similar with Macedonia,
so called "Catena Mundi" ="The Link Between the Worlds".Allusions we share together, even if no one history do not work alone.

Bulgar comes from Vulgar...social class in Byzantine Empire.This one started with "beta".Than language of vulgars was recreated."Beta" was used for "B=Buki".So part of population of Balkans still use this name.
Bulgars.This name means "uneducated","simple","raya"..ordinary people that served their masters,
Romans!Their masters,called themselves Romeians or Romei...Just search further and we would be maybe relatives!?!



Edited by medenaywe - 12-Mar-2011 at 11:02

Hello,

You guys are right about European ethnic groups being all mixed up from ancient migrations, invasions, etc.  What nation you are from is not a good indicator of your ancient heritage, especially in the central parts of Europe.  Too many tribes and empires over the course of history came through there.

You can get DNA tests that might help you narrow down your heritage.  Or it may only lead to more questions and confusion.  Here's a link to European Y-DNA results by country.

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml

Even though my most distant known paternal ancestor came from England to North America in the 1600's, his DNA is Haplogroup G, which is only 1.5% of people in England.  It is found in larger numbers in southern Europe, Caucasus, and Central Asia, and is strong in some Turkic and Persian speaking peoples.  I also suspect the Roman Empire activities since they recruited a lot of eastern people and sent them as soldiers etc. to Britain, but there's no real way to know.  It could have happened earlier, or later.  Language is not always a good indicator either, since people get assimilated and learn new languages.  They also change their surnames to match their new language.

If Bulgar come from vulgar so how can it be that there Bolgarians tribe in central asia speaking turkish?  

It is very true it was a complex society and how devolpment and progress was made throught christianity but rulers got to gready and used the faith to control people and made they there true identity in the back. In the start of Byzantium the true goal was to spread christianity and make peace through east and the west empire and only way you can gather people are asimilimation..  Then the pope or ruler got to gready thinking about his own wealth when his people was getting poor and then automaticly people started to focus on there own identity.. saying im a albanian im macedonian and whatever and that caused the fall of the byzantium empire like a story was tooled then later on ww1 that 2 brothere got 2 different nationalities.. one was macedonian other was bulgarian so it is hard now to know what you really are and second Ottoman empire had sorted this out regarding assimilation, they had planned the collaps of byzantium one took rumeli ( roman part) and  ( i-stan-bul) which means to the city on old greek7turkish languange...
They wanted to minimize the rebelions and by doing that they had dervishes and dönmehler or TORBESH maybe you know who where slavic converts. 
Most of them islamize the balkans and most of them mariied to turks which gavea new race REMEMBER people from balkans where from the arian race, blue eyed and blond haired and it proven by dna seen it in Discovery.
The turks where black eyed and dark skinned, and one man livin in the byzantium era wrote that they saw the turks as beast, different coloured.
Take for instance Serbia...  it os proven that through dna that 6 out of 10  had ottoman genes when i write ottoman because there were also arabs and persian s in there army.
When it comes to bulgaria it is divede because it is a real CORBA.. You can define which are turk or Bulgarian.... becaus it has been forced from both sides.. once turks did turkishized bulgarian and then did bulgarians bulgarized the turks..
Turks are not arabs if it thats you claim.. They just have been arabized by the centuries...

Most possible variant would have been your ancestors just have changed their religion(but they were born  natives)!Do you know meaning of star and crescent on your flag today?!?This sign was ideology those days.
First in usage was during Perseus,last king of Macedon!?!

Moon Crescent was symbol in Egypt(Part of Osiris body).Star was symbol in Persia(evening star Venus, Inanna,Ishtar).Persia and Egypt were enemies.But after Alexander had conquered most of ancient world he
tried idea for "one nation" as it looks now.Many rulers after would have copied&pasted the same idea.