Slavization of Eastern Europe!

 

It is really possible that Sarmatian/Scythian was used by Greeks and Romans as a general name for all different tribes who lived in the Eastern Europe, including Slavic tribes, for a long time Iranians called all western Europeans as Farangi (Frank), it doesn't prove they were all Frankish tribes.

 

But it seems very possible that the Sarmatian tribe of Serbi in the north of the Caucasus were origianally an Iranain tribe who migrated to the Eastern Europe, as I mentioned in this thread: Serbian Coat of Arms & Iranian Cypress, the very Iranian word "Serb" (Modern Persian Sarv) means Cypress, the holiest tree in the Iranian culture, this tree is not indigenous to Eastern Europe, but Serbs and Croatians used it as a national symbol for a long time, of course, as you read, in modern times they prefer to use an oak tree, which is abundant in the region.

 

The theory that the source of the word "slave" is slavic has been questioned many times. The words in greek "sklavenoi" and in latin "sclavus" was describing only soughtern Slavs that were living on the borders of Roman Empire. But the classic latin that time was no longer used and in medieval times the word "slavus" was describing "serf" not "slave". In latin the word describing "slave" was "servus" while "sclavus" was prisoner of war.

 

There are many debates about origin of words like "Sloven". It may come as well from the word "sloboda" - freedom, or "Sloby" - muds, or "Slava" - glory.

 

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The Veneti were geographically and temporally contiguous to the Germanic and Slavic peoples and were eventually assimilated by both groups, perhaps even more decisively by Slavs, who later settled in the territory which erstwhile belonged to the Veneti. The Germanic peoples subsequently transferred the ethnonym Veneti to their new easterly neighbours, the Slavs. This tradition survived in German language where Slavs living in closest proximity to Germany were originally called Wenden or Winden, while the people of the Austrian federal lands Styria and Carinthia referred to their Slavic neighbours as Windische. It should be emphasised, though, that Slavic peoples never used the ethnonym Veneti for themselves but were called thus only by the neighbouring Germanic peoples. Such transfers of ethnonyms from one group to another are not unusual and have occurred frequently in history^[16]. An analogous example is the name Böhmer, formerly applied by Germans to the Czechs, which originally was the name of a Celtic tribe Boii who dwelt in Bohemia before the Czechs. Similarly, the name of the Celtic Volcae (Proto-Germanic *Walhoz) was adopted as the collective name for the Celtic peoples and later for the Romance peoples^[17] and gave rise to the names "Wales" and "Welsh" in English^[18]. Although Tacitus listed the Venethi as a Germanic tribe, in his Getica, Jordanes equated the Venethi with the Sclavenes and Antes. Slavists such as Pavel Josef Šafařík have criticized Tacitus for erroneously identifying the Venethi as Germanic^[19], due to the similar appearance of Slavs and Germans^[20]

 

I think that Russian or Ukrainian peasants are closest to the original slavic physical features.  If so, the strong peasant features of Soviet Marshall Zhukov would be a good example to study.  I have noticed that Serbians have these features as do some Poles.  In contrast, only a few Czechs and Croats seem to have kept the features.  With the Croats, this may support the legends about their Iranian origins.

 

As a side note, Russian peasants vaguelly resemble Finno Ugaric peoples.  Finno Ugaric peoples are indigenous to Siberia.  If the original slavs and Finno Ugarics are related, it may show that Slavs are indigenous or near indigenous in their heartland of Russia, Belorus and Ukraine.

 

Yes, a Slavic state had never been found in what is now Romania, but Romanian lands were part of the Bulgarian state for centuries (especially Wallahia). Bulgarian language (as Slavic) still exist on South Romania. I personally met many people from south Romania and even from Bucharest, who can speak fluent Bulgarian language. Here in Bulgaria is believed that Romance language is artificially imposed in Romania as a state policy of Aromanian elite (originated from what is now FYROM), ruled Wallahia and Moldova in 18 and 19 century.

 

 

 

Wow! what an expert! Have you ever been to any of those countries?