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QuoteReplyTopic: Very ancient civilization found in persian gulf Posted: 27-Feb-2012 at 19:17
Originally posted by Seth
This is very interesting and id like u to keep up on it, but Atlantis wasn't just a great city like many have come to believe but rather an entire civilization, an empire, it conquered a older Greece not known by the ancient Greeks we know of, far before, The Osirians. I mentioned them before, and they apparently rivaled Atlantis, these two of many other ancient civilizations were very powerful and set up colony's around the world and maybe even further into space then we did. Its all very hard to take and many don't even consider, but without consideration for everything in every aspect there is no logical answer, think of it this way anything possibly imaginable (in a logical sense) in history for the past 300,000 years or even far more, humans have been doing things and they had tv's and radio's and all the things today. Just a process that keeps replaying in different scenarios.
What can crush mountains, move seas, change everything, and is the most powerful thing ever? "Time"
Over time anything is possible. So its already been. Get used to it.
Do you know any more about the Osirian civilisation Seth? We started a topic on the subject and came to the conclusion they were purely mythical, being based on memories of ancient Egypt
This is very interesting and id like u to keep up on it, but Atlantis wasn't just a great city like many have come to believe but rather an entire civilization, an empire, it conquered a older Greece not known by the ancient Greeks we know of, far before, The Osirians. I mentioned them before, and they apparently rivaled Atlantis, these two of many other ancient civilizations were very powerful and set up colony's around the world and maybe even further into space then we did. Its all very hard to take and many don't even consider, but without consideration for everything in every aspect there is no logical answer, think of it this way anything possibly imaginable (in a logical sense) in history for the past 300,000 years or even far more, humans have been doing things and they had tv's and radio's and all the things today. Just a process that keeps replaying in different scenarios.
What can crush mountains, move seas, change everything, and is the most powerful thing ever? "Time"
Over time anything is possible. So its already been. Get used to it.
I think a lot of archaeological sites are submerged under water or modern cities. The coast line has changed a few times in our past, it's been at both lower and higher levels than present. As for Atlantis, I leave for others to have an opinion. I think the story is still out there on that one. Atlantis and cities like it may well have existed in separate places and differing times, perhaps every region has had it's own Atlantis.
Hello, all. I just found this topic, very interesting indeed. I have been collecting information about mining and trade routes in antiquity, I have noticed a correlation between megalithic sites and ancient economies. I believe megalithic sites the world over served as navigation, storage for goods and housing for people, and as well defended corridors in the ancient mining and trade industries. I think we too readily dismiss the tenacity and creativity of ancient civilizations and our forefathers. The neolithic and bronze ages were not so long ago on our entire historical timeline. I absolutely concur with Seth on this. Some of the earliest trade activities are evident from over 70,000 years ago in Africa, beads and shells were traded throughout the continent. Mining appears 40,000 years ago in Bulgaria and Swaziland in southern Africa. I have some info collected at https://sites.google.com/site/ancienttrenches/ancient-trade-routs
please do have a read, nny further insights or more information would be greatly appreciated. It is advert free and will remain that way, my only goal is to draw attention to the sophistication and technological advances in industry, trade, and defense as displayed by megalithic constructions.
Not a bad website, but what's your take on this underwater civilisation? Personally i'm doubtful this is Atlantis as Classical sources describe it being on a round island
Hello, all. I just found this topic, very interesting indeed. I have been collecting information about mining and trade routes in antiquity, I have noticed a correlation between megalithic sites and ancient economies. I believe megalithic sites the world over served as navigation, storage for goods and housing for people, and as well defended corridors in the ancient mining and trade industries. I think we too readily dismiss the tenacity and creativity of ancient civilizations and our forefathers. The neolithic and bronze ages were not so long ago on our entire historical timeline. I absolutely concur with Seth on this. Some of the earliest trade activities are evident from over 70,000 years ago in Africa, beads and shells were traded throughout the continent. Mining appears 40,000 years ago in Bulgaria and Swaziland in southern Africa. I have some info collected at https://sites.google.com/site/ancienttrenches/ancient-trade-routs
please do have a read, nny further insights or more information would be greatly appreciated. It is advert free and will remain that way, my only goal is to draw attention to the sophistication and technological advances in industry, trade, and defense as displayed by megalithic constructions.
Interesting. Ive been reading a book, "Technology of the Gods The Incredible sciences of the Ancients". By David Hatcher Childress.It qoutes that for many years people have know of the ancient civilizations that once thrived in the mediterranean, such as the Osirian. And were very much real and did exist. To say that us as a species has such a short history, and that we developed only one course of major civilizations... well thats ridiculous, over time anythings possible. be logical.
Bahrain, has been suspected of being the Genesis of the Garden of Eden myth for at least 50 years or so!
It is nothing new!
Wow, and I thought there was not much interesting history behind this little corner of the world! I have heard of that theory but didn't think much of it, but after these new findings I'm starting to change my mind!
I have at least one migration map, indicating this region is the point of mass migrations. Also I believe it was a Chinese scientist who said the Ice Age pushed humanity into a small area. I forget where this area was. I will look for verifying information as soon as possible.
Dec. 11) -- The waters of the Persian Gulf may be hiding a lost civilization that could change our understanding of human history, according to new research.
This huge fertile stretch of land may have been home to humans from about 74,000 years ago until about 8,000 years ago, according to Discovery News.
When the waters around them began to rise, these early humans may have migrated to what is now the gulf shoreline, founding new settlements there, according to a paper published in the December issue of Current Anthropology.
Over the past several years, archaeologists have uncovered new evidence of those shoreline settlements.
"Where before there had been but a handful of scattered hunting camps, suddenly, over 60 new archaeological sites appear virtually overnight," Jeffrey Rose of the University of Birmingham said, according to LiveScience.
"These settlements boast well-built, permanent stone houses, long-distance trade networks, elaborately decorated pottery, domesticated animals, and even evidence for one of the oldest boats in the world," Rose said.
Rose says such sophisticated settlements couldn't have developed so quickly, which is why he believes even older settlements lie beneath gulf waters. If true, Rose's hypothesis could offer a clue as to how and when human beings first departed Africa and settled in the Middle East.
This has long been a topic for debate, with some scientists saying that humans made the migration 125,000 years ago, while others put it closer to 60,000 years ago, LiveScience said.
The now-submerged slice of land would have been about the size of Great Britain, Rose said.
Since it would have received water from the rivers Tigris, Euphrates, Karun and Wadi Baton, it would have offered a fertile refuge from the nearby harsh deserts.
"I think Jeff's theory is bold and imaginative, and hopefully will shake things up," Oxford Brookes University's Robert Carter told LiveScience.
"It would completely rewrite our understanding of the out-of-Africa migration. It is far from proven, but Jeff and others will be developing research programs to test the theory," Carter said.
Rose admits that much work remains be done. So far, he has focused on archaeological sites on dry land and studies of geological history.
Finding some physical evidence beneath the waves of the ocean would be a major advance in proving that his theory is correct.
"We would need to find a submerged site, and excavate it underwater," Rose said, according to LiveScience. "This would likely only happen as the culmination of years of survey in carefully selected areas."
The waters of the Persian Gulf rose 8,000 years ago, perhaps because of the collapse of a huge glacial dam in Canada, according to Postmedia News.
This event caused water levels to rise across the world. This catastrophic event may have forced humans out of the Gulf basin and given rise to ancient stories such as that of Noah's Ark.
"Certainly, I think there is compelling evidence to suggest that both the flood and Eden myths may be rooted in these events around the Gulf basin," Rose said, according to Discovery News
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