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Topic: USSR or USA?Which one do you favor most? Posted: 25-Jul-2005 at 05:24 |
Originally posted by blake79
I can't believe those who say they would prefur a dictatorship with no political or basic human freedoms, long breadlines and a government whose stated goal was to dominate the world through advancing communsim. Over a nation that provides almost half the food consumed in the world,
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I think that should be provided. And when you say 'provided' do you mean 'eaten' or 'thrown away'?
Moreover, how much of that does the US iself consume, one way or another? Provides food for more than half the world's population would be a more impressive statistic. If it were correct.
a free press and whose stated perpose is the eternal pursuite of the democratic ideal.
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Everybody's stated purpose is some ideal or other. However by their deeds you shall know them.
Ask those who lived in the shadow of communism what they think.
All it boils down to is that there are many jeaous hearted people in the world who dream of a revised Soviet Union in order to be a thorn in the side of Uncle Sam due to the fact that most folks in the world regard Americans as nothing more than a bunch of uneducated morons.
Yet, somehow we gave the world the Airplane, Motion pcitures, |
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the computer that you are using now, , |
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the fiberoptic cable, the internet, |
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, just to name a few and we even managed be the only country in history to put a man on the moon while most of the nations of the world was still trying to develop their own airplane.
What did the U.S.S.R give the world ?
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The first man in space? The first satellite?
Ak47s, the Berlin Wall, and a failed Marxist ideal that has been swept into the abyss of history.
Hell! in America even as a citizen I can own an AK40 (which I do,) as long as I don't abuse that right.
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Which isn't to say I didn't prefer the US to the Soviet Union. In the army I was prepared to fight the Soviets, not the Americans.
However, boasting irritates me.
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Posted: 25-Jul-2005 at 05:17 |
I do not like Soviet communism,but i feel so sad watching how a glorious and powerfull Red Army scattered into nothing.
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Posted: 24-Jul-2005 at 18:44 |
C'mon, a totalitarianistic communist regime versus a capitalist democracy. Most obviously i would vote for USA.
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Posted: 24-Jul-2005 at 14:57 |
I wish my grandfather was alive, he could have given me so much information about the local soviet "culture" here in Estonia from the day the Soviets learned what an acctual toilet was to what ever else crazy they did. Like eating shoewax in the army because alcohol was prohibited. Everybody take a note that the Soviet culture is a very far haven from Russian culture.
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Posted: 24-Jul-2005 at 07:46 |
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Turkistan is a door to two worlds,
Turkistan is a cradle of the Turks,
Living in beautiful Turkistan
Is Tengri's blessing to the Turks.
FREEDOM FOR EASTERN TURKISTAN
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blake79
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Posted: 24-Jul-2005 at 07:33 |
I can't believe those who say they would prefur a dictatorship with no political or basic human freedoms, long breadlines and a government whose stated goal was to dominate the world through advancing communsim. Over a nation that provides almost half the food consumed in the world, a free press and whose stated perpose is the eternal pursuite of the democratic ideal.
Ask those who lived in the shadow of communism what they think.
All it boils down to is that there are many jeaous hearted people in the world who dream of a revised Soviet Union in order to be a thorn in the side of Uncle Sam due to the fact that most folks in the world regard Americans as nothing more than a bunch of uneducated morons.
Yet, somehow we gave the world the Airplane, Motion pcitures, atomic power, the computer that you are using now, the fiberoptic cable, the internet, just to name a few and we even managed be the only country in history to put a man on the moon while most of the nations of the world was still trying to develop their own airplane.
What did the U.S.S.R give the world ? Ak47s, the Berlin Wall, and a failed Marxist ideal that has been swept into the abyss of history.
Hell! in America even as a citizen I can own an AK40 (which I do,) as long as I don't abuse that right.
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Posted: 14-Sep-2004 at 21:47 |
I am flattered by their lack of caring for me. Down with them both! Down with your portrait too! Long live Kronstadt!
The communist system can never work because it is self-contradictory. The equality of of proletarians are already broken because there is the ruling class. If proles are to be equal there must be some form of democracy.
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Posted: 14-Sep-2004 at 11:25 |
In the end the soviets suck and so do the Americans....... a hard discussion! Do continue...
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Posted: 14-Sep-2004 at 11:02 |
You seem totally unconcerned byt the fact that the SOviets could and did intentionally create food shortages to kill off people and make sections of the populace more dependant on the central government.
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Posted: 14-Sep-2004 at 04:45 |
Listen to this;
The Communist system failed because they decided to enter a rat race with the Americans. They invested huge amounts of money into a Missile race they could never win. They created the Cuban missile crisis because they could only compensate their inferiority in the missile gap through increasing the deterrancy of their missiles by placing them somewhere close to the Yankees.
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Posted: 14-Sep-2004 at 01:48 |
Originally posted by Vittfarne
To John Doe concerning the Republic of Georgia.
None of the above!
Yes, you are right. US soldiers are also stationed in Georgia. My personal opinion is that they should leave too, but unfortunately they are invited by the Georgian government. The Russians are not wanted there by anyone and they have already signed a treaty to leave (although doing their utmost to delay the withdrawal).
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Stop complaining
Originally posted by Evildoer
None of the above for me too! Down with both of them!
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I'm sure the US and the Russians don't care much for you too... and wish for a quick death to you.
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I'm Shifty Russian, Suka
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Posted: 13-Sep-2004 at 13:14 |
None of the above for me too! Down with both of them!
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Posted: 11-Sep-2004 at 02:25 |
To John Doe concerning the Republic of Georgia.
None of the above!
Yes, you are right. US soldiers are also stationed in Georgia. My personal opinion is that they should leave too, but unfortunately they are invited by the Georgian government. The Russians are not wanted there by anyone and they have already signed a treaty to leave (although doing their utmost to delay the withdrawal).
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Posted: 10-Sep-2004 at 22:51 |
Bah. The Soviet lied to their leaders about the economy. If that's not messed up, I don't know what is.
And I respect the idea of Communism, but like the belief goes, it works on paper but doesn't work in reality. The Soviets did rather well for a country that was formerly backwater, though.
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Posted: 10-Sep-2004 at 22:47 |
The USA was more economically efficient than the Soviets.
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Posted: 10-Sep-2004 at 19:43 |
Originally posted by Gallipoli
Well lets make sure we understand one thing;
No regime is evil. The cold war policy of the US was based on claiming that the Soviet regime was evil and that the communist system only allowed the powerful to rule and so on. Then what about the US system?Anyone criticise that?
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maybe because its 500 times better than the Soviet system...
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Posted: 10-Sep-2004 at 19:41 |
Aren't there american troops in Georgia now ?
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Posted: 10-Sep-2004 at 16:14 |
None of the above!
Read more (Russian language) on re-aqcia:
http://www.re-aqcia.info/
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Posted: 10-Sep-2004 at 05:31 |
Well lets make sure we understand one thing;
No regime is evil. The cold war policy of the US was based on claiming that the Soviet regime was evil and that the communist system only allowed the powerful to rule and so on. Then what about the US system?Anyone criticise that?
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Posted: 09-Sep-2004 at 18:18 |
Well USA, because there was more freedom.
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