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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: 20% of Americans think that OBAMA, is a Muslim!
    Posted: 19-Aug-2010 at 15:07
Are 20% of Americans wrong in thinking so? Are they merely un-informed? Or, are they really stupid?

Whether or not he is a practicing Muslim is left to discussion, just like for twenty years was he a practicing Baptist, whilst his preacher and confidant spouted racist comments from the pulpit!

Or does OBAMA rather fit into the thinking of the Mere Simba?
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  Quote DreamWeaver Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Aug-2010 at 07:47
Technically, by Islamic law he is, though he is an apostate. Thats a technicality, practically and actually he is not. 
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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Aug-2010 at 17:35
And, taking your response as being a learned one, the what is supposed to happen to apostates, in the Qu'ran? And, especially one who reportedly attended a Christian church for the last 20 or so years?

Hmmm? Don't answer yet! Scroll to the bottom of the page for the Wikipedia answer!









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"The traditional schools of Islamic jurisprudence are unanimous in holding that apostasy by a male Muslim is punishable by death. They differ on whether to execute the apostate immediately or grant the apostate a temporary reprieve in order to allow him to repent and avoid the penalty. The schools also differ on whether a female apostate is to be killed, or only imprisoned until she re-embraces the faith.[1]"

It seems he may well be under a "death penalty right now?"

If not, why not?

Of course, right now he does have a very good "body guard" of infidels! As well he also has the armed might of the US Military at his command! So how are the Shias or Sunnis to "take him out?"

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  Quote DreamWeaver Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Aug-2010 at 08:09
Well he doesnt live in a state where such las are applicable.
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  Quote TheGreatSimba Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Aug-2010 at 11:34
Many Americans cant even find the USA on a map. Not surprised. There are a lot of uninformed people in this country, and that has to do with Fox News and our crappy education system.

Without a doubt that 20% is made up of Conservatives (probably Tea Partiers) and Fox News viewers.

Edit: No surprise, here is where Opuslola got his information from:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/08/19/nearly-americans-thinks-obama-muslim-survey-shows/?test=latestnews

Fox News, and if he read the article, which he didnt, 18% of Americans polled believed Obama was Muslim.

By the way, Fox News donated 1 million dollars to the Republican Party. Fair and balanced? LOL


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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Aug-2010 at 17:02
Here is a list of General Electrics PAC contributions in the 2008 election cycle! (Note, GE owns NBC, CNBC, MSNBC, etc.!)

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&cid=n00009638

Top Donors to Obama in 2008!

"Goldman Sachs $994,795
Microsoft Corp $833,617
Google Inc $803,436
Citigroup Inc $701,290
JPMorgan Chase & Co $695,132
Time Warner $590,084
UBS AG $543,219
Morgan Stanley $514,881
General Electric $499,130
US Government $494,820
Latham & Watkins $493,835"

The above group included GE!, Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs, CitiGrouip, and JPMorgan, Chase, and Time Warner!

Oh, and all of the above are just donations to Obama!

From the above a few general observations;

Goldman Sachs $994,795!

Yeah, none of those groups have been in the news in the last year have they?

Actually some polls indicate the number is closer to 24%!

I wonder what the contributions were from CNN, CBS, and ABC?

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  Quote TheGreatSimba Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Aug-2010 at 18:56
Opuslola, do you not read anything you post? Look at your link carefully.

This table lists the top donors to this candidate in the 2008 election cycle. The organizations themselves did not donate , rather the money came from the organization's PAC, its individual members or employees or owners, and those individuals' immediate families. Organization totals include subsidiaries and affiliates.

Because of contribution limits, organizations that bundle together many individual contributions are often among the top donors to presidential candidates. These contributions can come from the organization's members or employees (and their families). The organization may support one candidate, or hedge its bets by supporting multiple candidates. Groups with national networks of donors - like EMILY's List and Club for Growth - make for particularly big bundlers.


They even bolded it and colored to clearly indicate that the donations were not from corporations, but from individuals.

You only hate Obama because hes black, and nothing will change that. You keep attempting to find reasons to justify your hate for him, but all your reasons are misguided or completely incorrect. The truth is that the color of his skin isnt the same color as your skin.

Hes black and hes our president, America voted for him. Get over it, a persons skin color is no reason to hate them.

PS. McCain also received donations from individuals within the same corporations.


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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Aug-2010 at 19:06
Please "little kitty", just how do you know my race? It seems you are apt to make great assumptions based upon little evidence! Perhaps that is why you are so warped when it comes to politics?

Come on, loosen up and tell us something about yourself? Just who are you? From an old Sunday School song comes this song, I learned when I was about age 5 or so; "Red or Yellow, Black or White, they are precious in His sight, Jesus loves the little children of the World!"


I'd bet you never sang that song in your life? And, I'd bet you do not believe it? You need to get rid of your hate and racism before it makes you sick!

Love you guy! And so does Jesus!

By the way, just what is the owner of Fox? Or rather just whom is the owner of Fox? Just how much of it does he own?

In a way it is mostly a "personal" contribution, to specifically (a point you failed to mention) Republican Governers! IE, a multiple number of men and women!

Thus a little for each! Obviously not enough to make or break an election!

So, can you provide us with the amount of monies distrubuted by Teacher's Unions, and other Labor Unions to Republicans, of any type? Were the members able to seperate their part of these contributions from the mass? Just who(m) made the decision?

Did you?

To semi-quote a famous or infamous American, who I really respect;
"In a battle of wits with me, you "Mere Simba" are playing with an unloaded weapon!"

So, just who made the above quotation famous? As you well know, I was just kidding!

Hint, he was a FBI Agent! Hint, he love investing in "Gold!"

Would you like to compare Murdock's contributions to the Republicans with Sauros' contributions to the Democrats?

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  Quote TheGreatSimba Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-Aug-2010 at 12:41
Originally posted by opuslola

Please "little kitty",


It appears as though you can use google, why dont you do that more often?

http://ews.uiuc.edu/userguide/printing.html
 just how do you know my race? It seems you are apt to make great assumptions based upon little evidence! Perhaps that is why you are so warped when it comes to politics? [/quote]

Because you told everyone. You are a white southern male who also claims to have some native American ancestry.

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In a way it is mostly a "personal" contribution, to specifically (a point you failed to mention) Republican Governers! IE, a multiple number of men and women!


No, it was a corporate donation to the Republican Governors Association, a GOP organization which helps Republican Governors. Its part of the Republican Party.


Originally posted by opuslola


So, can you provide us with the amount of monies distrubuted by Teacher's Unions, and other Labor Unions to Republicans, of any type? Were the members able to seperate their part of these contributions from the mass? Just who(m) made the decision?


Labor Unions, Teachers Unions, etc.. do not claim to be "fair and balanced" and do not front as "news organizations". Fox News claims to be "fair and balanced" and claims to be a "news organization" when it reality its a propaganda channel for the Republican party.

Originally posted by opuslola


Would you like to compare Murdock's contributions to the Republicans with Sauros' contributions to the Democrats?


George Soros does not claim to be neutral. George Soros, as an individual, has the right to give his money to whoever he wants to support, Democrat or Republican or whatever.

Rupert Murdoch, as an individual, also has the right to give his money to whoever he wants. The difference is that Rupert Murdoch makes his money by buying up and starting "news" sources (channels, papers, etc...) claiming them to be factual news. Fox News is not "fair and balanced" and it certainly isnt news. Its a Republican Party propaganda channel that spends 18 hours of the day broadcasting conservative "opinion" programs and only 6 hours of actual news. This is by their own admission.

This donation is hard evidence that Fox News is what many have been saying it has been, an arm of the Republican Party.

Fox News spends the entire day bombarding gullible people like you with lies and misinformation in order to destroy this country.


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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-Aug-2010 at 15:28
TGS, why don't you try to eat a lot of soft boiled eggs? Or better yet a lot of "over light" or "Sunny side up", eggs, or even better just drop some raw eggs into your energy breakfast!

Sorry if that sounds harsh, but I was programmed to say it by the FNN!
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  Quote TheOrcRemix Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Oct-2010 at 10:21

Fox News spends the entire day bombarding gullible people like you with lies and misinformation in order to destroy this country.


Fox news exists because there are individuals who are willing to watch it (a large demand; say they are the #1 news station). It boslter their conservative ideology and assures that their self-righteous agenda is correct.

Of course, there is a flaw with this:

If Fox news tailored their news to the conservative demographic, it becomes muddled with half truths and major assumptions. This becomes problematic to ACTUAL NEWS in the media because individuals take Fox News word-by-word. For example, if President Obama improves international relationship in the Middle East, Fox news would condemn him, saying that he is negotiating with "terrorists" becasue it has to. Individuals who watch Fox Wews want to hear what they want to hear. If Fox News doesn't deliver, the viewers will find someone who will. So in a sense, Fox News is a necessary evil.

Opuslola, I don't understand. What are you trying to say about "eating eggs?"
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Originally posted by TheOrcRemix


Fox News spends the entire day bombarding gullible people like you with lies and misinformation in order to destroy this country.


Fox news exists because there are individuals who are willing to watch it (a large demand; say they are the #1 news station). It boslter their conservative ideology and assures that their self-righteous agenda is correct.

Of course, there is a flaw with this:

If Fox news tailored their news to the conservative demographic, it becomes muddled with half truths and major assumptions. This becomes problematic to ACTUAL NEWS in the media because individuals take Fox News word-by-word. For example, if President Obama improves international relationship in the Middle East, Fox news would condemn him, saying that he is negotiating with "terrorists" becasue it has to. Individuals who watch Fox Wews want to hear what they want to hear. If Fox News doesn't deliver, the viewers will find someone who will. So in a sense, Fox News is a necessary evil.

Opuslola, I don't understand. What are you trying to say about "eating eggs?"
 
 
 
This isn't news, aamf, it's been commonly accepted for a few years.  And you are right about people hearing what they want.
 
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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Oct-2010 at 16:37
Dear redclay, thanks for your neutral POV!

soft boiled eggs equals, rather "raw news" found at places other than FOX!

FOX presents "Hard News!"

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 Fox News is an entertainment channel, nothing more. Respectable conservatives dont watch it, and certainly dont rely on it for their news. I know several of such respectable conservatives. The vast majority, however, are sucked into its gimmick.

Even Glenn Beck has come out and admitted that he is not interested in politics or news, he is an entertainer and he runs an entertainment business:

With a deadpan, Beck insists that he is not political: "I could give a flying crap about the political process." Making money, on the other hand, is to be taken very seriously, and controversy is its own coinage. "We're an entertainment company," Beck says. He has managed to monetize virtually everything that comes out of his mouth. He gets $13 million a year from print (books plus the ten-issue-a-year magazine Fusion). Radio brings in $10 million. Digital (including a newsletter, the ad-supported Glennbeck.com and merchandise) pulls in $4 million. Speaking and events are good for $3 million and television for $2 million.


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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Nov-2010 at 18:58
Earlier TGS wrote the following;

"Rupert Murdoch, as an individual, also has the right to give his money to whoever he wants. The difference is that Rupert Murdoch makes his money by buying up and starting "news" sources (channels, papers, etc...) claiming them to be factual news. Fox News is not "fair and balanced" and it certainly isnt news. Its a Republican Party propaganda channel that spends 18 hours of the day broadcasting conservative "opinion" programs and only 6 hours of actual news. This is by their own admission.

This donation is hard evidence that Fox News is what many have been saying it has been, an arm of the Republican Party.

Fox News spends the entire day bombarding gullible people like you with lies and misinformation in order to destroy this country."

Well, after these elections, just how do you feel now? It seems my benefactor, won!

Would you bet the 2012 elections will be any better for your Liberal, Socialist, Progressive candidates?

I forsee almost the end of what was once a great National Party, that is the "Democrats!"

That is many of the Democrats are now most concerned with be not "National" but "International!"

It is a famous song, by the way!




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