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3 civilizations: Indus valley, Mesopotamia, Egypt

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  Quote balochii Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: 3 civilizations: Indus valley, Mesopotamia, Egypt
    Posted: 24-Jul-2010 at 08:47
These 3 could be considered the oldest Civilizations, though ofcourse there are some more like China.
 
My question is, did these 3 civilizations had contact with each other? THey are not too far from each other:
 
 
 
 
Mohenjo daro, Pakistan, Indus valley
 
 
Babylon, Iraq, Mesopotamia
 
Ancient Egypt:
 
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  Quote balochii Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Jul-2010 at 08:50
^ out of these 3 Indus valley is unfortunatly the least researched, part of the problem is pakistanis themselves dont have too much interest in their own history, for some reason our mullahs have made anything pre-islamic to be haram. Only 10% of Indus valley has been discovered, it remains a very hidden buried civilization, yet it is very vital to understanding indo-aryans

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  Quote DreamWeaver Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Jul-2010 at 08:52
The fabled Land of Punt in ancient egyptian writings, nobody knows where it is but there is no reason why it couldnt have been the Indus Valley. Mesopatamian civilisations have long had contact with Egypt.
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  Quote balochii Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Jul-2010 at 08:55
Mesopatamia actually also had contact with Indus valley, the articfacts found in both places prove that, But there has to research done on how much contact was there. Pakistan and Iraq are not too far from each other, so there should have been contact logically speaking
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  Quote DreamWeaver Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Jul-2010 at 09:00
Quite correct, a relatively simple voyage from the Gulf down to the Indus valley. 
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  Quote Cyrus Shahmiri Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Jul-2010 at 11:29
Just 3 Civilizations?!
 
 
There could be no contact, if you don't consider Elam, Jiroft, Shahdad, Shahr-e Sukhteh, Sialk and other civilizations in the Iranian plateau.
 
For example about Shahr-e Sukhteh, you can read in Unesco website: http://whc.unesco.org/en/tentativelists/5185/
 
Covering some 120 Hectares and located along the Zabol-Zahedan Highway, the historic site of Shahr-e Sukhte is the most important prehistoric city of the 3rd millennium BC and a key location for Iranian prehistoric studies, particularly concerning the southeastern region, and a connection point between Near Eastern civilization and that of the Indus valley. The findings of the archaeological excavations and researches as well as laboratory studies, have provided ample data about third-millennium BC civilization in Iran and the country's prehistory in general.


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  Quote balochii Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Jul-2010 at 11:37
^ yeah thats the thing i was wondering, there was a article few years ago that put the cradle of civilization from Indus valley in the east to Mesopotamia in the west, so ofcourse that would inlude modern countries of Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan area. It would be nice to dig in the past and see how much contact they had and how much deep connection they had in things like culture or religion.
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  Quote balochii Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Jul-2010 at 11:38
I found this intresting in the article you posted:
 

Comparison with other similar properties

Mohenjo-Daro and Harappa sites in Pakistan and other Iranian archaeological sites of the third and second millennia BC such as Tape Shahdad and Susa.

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  Quote medenaywe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Jan-2012 at 08:10
Yes,Balochii i found this post also interesting cause parallel discussions about traces that have been left behind those 3 civilizations could be leaded in unexpected&expected directions. 
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  Quote TheAlaniDragonRising Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Jan-2012 at 09:23
Originally posted by balochii

^ yeah thats the thing i was wondering, there was a article few years ago that put the cradle of civilization from Indus valley in the east to Mesopotamia in the west, so ofcourse that would inlude modern countries of Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan area. It would be nice to dig in the past and see how much contact they had and how much deep connection they had in things like culture or religion.
One definite connection is Lapis Lazuli and its trade:
Lapis lazuli (play /ˈlæpɪs ˈlæzjʉl/ or /ˈlæzjʉli/ lap-iss laz-zew-ly/lee, Arabic: لازورد Persian: لاژورد Urdu: لاجورد) (sometimes abbreviated to lapis) is a relatively rare semi-precious stone that has been prized since antiquity for its intenseblue color.

Lapis lazuli was being mined in the Badakhshan province of Afghanistan as early as the 3rd millennium BC and there are sources that are found as far east as in the region around Lake Baikal in Siberia. Trade in the stone is ancient enough for lapis jewelry to have been found at Predynastic Egyptian and ancient Sumerian sites, and as lapis beads at neolithic burials inMehrgarh, the Caucasus, and even as far from Afghanistan as Mauritania....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapis_lazuli

What a handsome figure of a dragon. No wonder I fall madly in love with the Alani Dragon now, the avatar, it's a gorgeous dragon picture.
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