The Meaning of Liverpool!

The meaning of the phrase 'Liverpool' is mentioned on a new GCSE History website.

www.historyofliverpool.com

The site is packed with quizzes and games that are related to various schools history topics (Battle of Hastings, The Norman Conquests, Medieval Feudalism, The 100 Years War, The War Of The Roses and The English Civil War.)

The site is (and will always be) free to use.  It is only half way through development, so any advice or feedback welcome.

 

The only distinguishing livery i've seen Scousers wearing are football shirts and chavvy tracksuits. They are stereotypically reluctant to work and have a fondness for pinching things

OK, fair enough.  Thanks for taking the time to reply

sorry about the spelling mistakes in my last post.  They have their origin in England...the West Country to be precise...

Why thank you Welshcanadian, I think? Sorry, I just was unable to understand whether or not you supported my theory or not?

Welcome to the site, non-the-less!

Regards,

Logic is sometimes the doom of a society! One must assume that most men are therefor "logical?"

There lies or lays, or "lius" / "Livs", the problem!

Edited by opuslola - 09-Jun-2010 at 18:06

Perhaps?

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=livery

"livery
c.1300, "household allowance of any kind (food, provisions, clothing) to retainers or servants," from Anglo-Fr. livere (late 13c.), O.Fr. livrée, originally "(clothes) delivered by a master to his servants," from fem. pp. of livrer "to dispense, deliver, hand over," from L. liberare (see liberate). The sense later was reduced to "servants' rations" and "provender for horses" (mid-15c.). The former led to the meaning "distinctive clothing given to servants" (early 14c.); the latter now is obsolete except in livery stable (1705). Related: Liveried."

Is 1300 CE early enough?

And; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Liverpool

"The History of Liverpool can be traced back to 1190 when the place was known as 'Liuerpul', possibly meaning a pool or creek with muddy water. Other origins of the name have been suggested, including 'elverpool', a reference to the large number of eels in the Mersey, but the definitive origin is open to debate and is probably lost to history. A likely derivation is connected with the Welsh word "Llif" meaning a flood, often used as the proper name for the Atlantic Ocean, whilst "pool" is in general in place names in England derived from the late British or Welsh "Pwll" meaing variously, a pool, an inlet or a pit."

Note that the name origin was "probably lost to history!", and any specific origin can only be described as "likely!"

Thus my derivation is in general just as "likely" as any other! It is based upon a famous group who literally ran port cities in the past!

These words from above; "..1190 when the place was known as 'Liuerpul'", only shows an obvious case whereby the Latin "v", is was was transposed into a "u", which is very common!

Thus the "finger" was upon the hand that overlooked my meaning for another one!

If a respected historian etc., had proposed my solution, it would have at least have acquired some attention, and mention! Thus, it seems most likely to me, that I might well be the first to promote such a definition, etc.?

Thus your dismissal, out of hand, was or is not very reasonable!

If the real etymology or history of this word is "lost!", then there does exist that it could be "found?"

Edited by opuslola - 09-Jun-2010 at 06:21

Dear DreamWeaver, I would suggest that you look and see if there is not someone else with their finger upon the scales!

The entire enterprise, was designed to move ancient history closer to our time!

Thus, if the correct time setback or setforward, if you please, is used then the times of Liferpools greatness, is moved much closer to our times than our consensual history and chronology can ever forsee!

"Oh foolish race of Man, How overwhelming is thy ignorance!"

Well, just what can I say? You, have overwhelmed all of my information in a mere "glance!"

But, for all of your education, as well as your "post graduate!" edcucation, you still would rather impugne my information, rather than consider it?

You must remember it, is the relative, "time lines" that keep us apart?

And, unless you have any "new" information that could dispute my claims, then, perhaps you should have become, "Mute?!"

My regards to you for your post, is great! However!

I would however, respectfully ask you to again review my words, VS the contempary view, whilst not conforming to current tradition?

Regards,

Edited by opuslola - 31-May-2010 at 20:01