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    Posted: 16-May-2010 at 05:57
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kalhur, its almost like your begging for freedom.. this is all I hear from you "Oh they let us live in their country, and sometimes let us speak our language, lets thank them" ??? what the hell man, its our land and we do what we want, ok? like I said your twisted bend over way of thinking is your choice, keep it to yourself.. 

first of all you have no right and not in a positition to command me what i shall i do or not to doAngry you can keep all those commy crap propaganda for yourself . if i respect people , it is not of fear it is of politness!!!
 

i do not need to beg for staying in europe, because i am citizen of an european country .
 i haven't used exilum right, in any european country like many othersWink do and did and then insulting them as thank!!
 i have all my respect for those peshmerga who has given theire lives for kurdish cause, because it is just and legitimate, but i don't like political lies  by non nationalist non responsible peoples trying to fool me.  and i don't like liars living in uk saying they are living in iraqi kurdistan and doing nothing only spreading lies and communist propaganda!and verbaly attacking other kurds which are not communist!Wink the communists are internationalist and not nationalist!!! they accept that in their ideologi , unless they have changed that tooShocked.
a legitimate cause should be achieved by legitimate way not by terror, black mailing and more.
The PKK is listed as a terrorist organization internationally by a number of states and organizations, including the United States,[6] United Nations,[10] NATO[10] and the European Union.[10][11] The organization is listed as one of the 12 active terrorist organizations in Turkey as of 2007 according to the Counter-Terrorism and Operations Department of the Turkish police.[12] Turkey labeled the organization as an ethnicsecessionist organization that uses terrorism and the threat of force against both civilian[11][13] and military targets for the purpose of achieving its political goal.
if you love and respect your nation and want your nation should be respected, then you should respect the arabs. iranians, turks,  EU  countries all other countries.
once you asked why you compare us with north korea Angrysorry i did a mistake i took the wrong flag, because they were so simillar.LOL

Democratic People's Republic of Korea
조선민주주의인민공화국
Chosŏn Minjujuŭi Inmin Konghwaguk[1]
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File:Kurdistan Workers Party flag (former).gif
all these propaganda is good for telling to young- euro-commy girls in discotek i LONDON,HAMBURG  or other big european citiesWink , not for an old man following daily the news from kurdestanLOL
i am fed up with all these communist crap propaganda. 


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Pfft you got short memory old man :D
I said I live in the UK, and Im from south kurdistan, you got it all twisted, just becuase your older then me, it does not make you smarter then me, nor does it mean you know more then me.. your sort of a bitch, sorry I have to use this word, but it just defines you very well.. becuase you won't find one arab or turk saying what your saying "we should respect kurds like our brothers, blah blah".. and yet you turn around and say, oh well they hate us and want us dead, but we are brothers blah blahAngry

I have never been a supporter of PKK, and I don't support their terrorism (as stated) though one can argue that ones terrorist is anothers freedom fighter, but I don't agree with their terrorism, but its not to say that I agree with turkeys terrorism (as they do it also) and not once have I seen you say anything about the ill-treated of kurds by others, you however decide to bash non-stops kurds and want to have a gay gangbang with turks and arabs :D

Your queting wikipedia, an article most likely written by turks and believe it? wow.. lol...

you know in 1991 when in southen kurdistan we did the uprising, and we won that war... we are ready for any other war, and we can defend what we have..

There is no problem with being nice to others around you, and not being racist, and kurds are not racist, infact we treat assyrians and turkomans way better then the others treat kurds, but social matters can not be mixed up with political matters, if they do.. we will never get what we want..

It was kurds like you that the turks tricked into helping them in the armenian genocide, kurds like you who massacred assyrians, kurds like you massacred turkomans, and why? becuase they get fooled easly, just with a couple nice words.. if KRG were like you, there would be no KRG, we would be other nations bitches...

this is why I say, you can think what you want, but for the sake of kurds keep it to yourself.

P.S once again sorry for using "bitch" I could not think of any other word..


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if you are not a pkk sympatisor and just why do you defend them? and wasen't you living in iraqi kurdestan in kirkuk???? you have defending  pkk . and bitch is your mother who diden't taught you talk properly and you are so ignorant that don't know iranian  kurds has never been involved in armenian genocid , there were thousends of armenian exiled to iran  . read the history babay boy and don't play adult and internet hero. it seems you are very poor in history!! now iranian kurds become  responsible of armenian genocideShocked
sorry if i called you a son of bitch, but it seems you are used to this kind of words . because you used it it is the kind of logic you and people like you have historical lies about iranian kurds being involved in armenian genocid  Shocked where did you read that can you show it ? lies and lies as usual . how many fights have you been involved for kurdistan? non you know that well too 
how old was you 1991 when you faught for kurdetan???Big smile


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if you are not a pkk sympatisor and just why do you defend them? and you are living in iraqi kurdestan ???? you have defending  pkk . and bitch is your mother who diden't taught you talk properly and you are so ignorant that don't know iranian  kurds has never been involved in armenian genocid , there were thousends of armenian exiled to iran  . read the history babay boy and don't play adult and internet hero. it seems you are very poor in history!! now iranian kurds become  responsible of armenian genocideShocked
sorry if i called you a son of bitch, but it seems you are used to this kind of words . because you used it it is the kind of logic you and people like you have historical lies about iranian kurds being involved in armenian genocid  Shocked where did you read that can you show it ? lies and lies as usual . how many fights have you been involved for kurdistan? non you know that well too 
how old was you 1991 when you faught for kurdetan???Big smile


You jump to conclusions, its not my fualt your english is bad, this is what I said:-

[QUOTE]It was kurds like you that the turks tricked into helping them in the armenian genocide[QUOTE]

Not refering to iranian kurds, but your type of thinking, by you saying things like "we are brothers" you are living a gap for others to fill, to use! plus to me there is no such thing as X-kurds, only kurds so if one kurd does something bad, then people like you will say "yeah but we are iranian kurds" pfft, I ge the deal here now.......

Like I said, I don't defend PKK, but I don't go againts them, how can I go againts a group fighting for kurdish rights?!? maybe you can't get that through your brain, and flag comparing isnt going to do any good.


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you are right i am not living in london pretending being kurdish peshmega in kirkuk. my endglish is not as good as peshmergaLOL in london. please cut the crap .and have little shame it seems you have no shame in your bodyAngry
your problem is not only hating all the nations around. you hate other kurds too,
in another topic you called iranian feily kurds(nearly 1,5 millions) for jash. 
anyone who don't agree with your majesty Big smile is bad guys !!
it seems your memory is shorter than an old man like me , but is not problem with your memmory it is a general mental problem . please ask doctor PHIL for help,



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you are right i am not living in london pretending being kurdish peshmega in kirkuk. my endglish is not as good as peshmergaLOL in london. please cut the crap .and have little shame it seems you have no shame in your bodyAngry


Your like a child, where did I say Im a peshmerga, or that I even live in south kurdistan? I stated that I live in the UK, and Im from south kurdistan... you can't argue with me, becuase I talk logic, and you just talk out of your behind.. so when your out of "smart" things to say, you go back to good old insults, common human behaviour when they lose LOL

And you should have shame, I talk about you, why are you swearing at my mother? I'll keep my cool here, but I feel like sorting you out nicely after saying thatAngry


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No I do not hate nations around me, infact I have no problems with them, but Im not a low person, if they want to be my friends, then they have to understand the kurdish cuase, and if they dont agree with it or like it, then they can stop being my friends.. all my arab turk friends know exactly how nationalist I am.. I don't call ALL feyli kurds jash, I call the jash ones jash for rightfull reasons.

Being "brothers" goes two ways not one, if they want my respect, then they have to respect me, and thats what you fail to understand, your happy respecting people that don't respect you.


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it was an answer to insulting me . if you insult then you get it back . the bitch like you believe if someone do not answer them is maybe fearing  them. if you want be respected then respect the othersAngry
 it was necaisary to give back to you what did you send to me . and i don't want hear any more from you or any kind of internet fredom fighters like you. do whatyou believe it is right and don't tell the others what to do!!
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it was an answer to insulting me . if you insult then you get it back . the bitch like you believe if someone do not answer them is maybe fearing  them. if you want be respected then respect the othersAngry
 it was necaisary to give back to you what did you send to me . and i don't want hear any more from you or any kind of internet fredom fighters like you. do whatyou believe it is right and don't tell the others what to do!!


Again I said it to YOU, you said it to my MOTHER who has nothing to do with this, your the idiot here.. Just give up, you'll lose.
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well  the parents are responsible for education of children . you ought to learn insulting others from your parents and as you are  just a boy  and not mentaly adult .
 they are still responsible for you and what you are saying.
 i don't like to talk with mentaly minor kids, that's all and specially those with undermind family fostering which instead of answering to questions . insult people, it is no more a debate, it is at kindergarden level.
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well  the parents are responsible for education of children . you ought to learn insulting others from your parents and as you are  just a boy  and not mentaly adult .
 they are still responsible for you and what you are saying.
 i don't like to talk with mentaly minor kids, that's all and specially those with undermind family fostering which instead of answering to questions . insult people, it is no more a debate, it is at kindergarden level.


Ha, you still have not prooved me wrong, and I countered everything you said, your old fashioned way of thining "older perople are smarter" is out of the date, and no longer the case, give it up old man :D

If you want to debate with me, through me your best shot..
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for those who wants to know the truth about kurds in iraq and KRG's stand point,  UNFORTUNATELY  the rest of baath pArty and their colaberators WHO FLED THE IRAQ by attacking verbally and insulting all the other nations want to gave a false and rude image of kurdish population which has faught a legitimate war with great braveness and achieved  many goals  and stabilished the KURDISH REGIONAL GOVERNEMENT.
HERE IS  STATEMENT FROM KRG
KRG.org 20:28:22 09 Oct. 2008
KRG strongly condemns PKK attack in Diyarbakir, Turkey

Statement by the Kurdistan Regional Government 

The Kurdistan Regional Government condemns the latest Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) attack in Diyarbakir, Turkey in the strongest possible terms. 

"This violent act by the PKK serves no political purpose and has brought only tragedy to the people of Diyarbakir and throughout Turkey," said Prime Minister Nechirvan Barzani. "We have already emphasised that the PKK must lay down its weapons, abandon the armed struggle, and seek a peaceful solution to this problem." 

The KRG has always maintained the position that violence will not solve this conflict and has committed itself to the promotion of peace and stability. The KRG has repeatedly called on the PKK to pursue a non-violent course of action. 

Prime Minister Barzani has made it clear that such attacks like the one in Diyarbakir only complicate the situation. He said that the Kurdistan Region of Iraq cannot be used as a safe haven by the PKK and the KRG abhors this and other violent attacks. 

The KRG considers friendship with its neighbours to be a top priority, and hopes that Wednesday's PKK attack will not derail KRG and Iraqi efforts to build stronger relations with Turkey. Prime Minister Barzani reiterated his and the KRG's commitment to work directly with Turkey on a long-term solution to the PKK and any and all issues in KRG-Iraq-Turkey relations. 

The KRG extends its sympathy and condolences to the victims of this attack and to the victim's families.

(VR)



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for those who wants to know the truth about kurds in iraq and KRG's stand point, here is 
KRG.org 20:28:22 09 Oct. 2008
KRG strongly condemns PKK attack in Diyarbakir, Turkey

Statement by the Kurdistan Regional Government 

The Kurdistan Regional Government condemns the latest Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) attack in Diyarbakir, Turkey in the strongest possible terms. 

"This violent act by the PKK serves no political purpose and has brought only tragedy to the people of Diyarbakir and throughout Turkey," said Prime Minister Nechirvan Barzani. "We have already emphasised that the PKK must lay down its weapons, abandon the armed struggle, and seek a peaceful solution to this problem." 

The KRG has always maintained the position that violence will not solve this conflict and has committed itself to the promotion of peace and stability. The KRG has repeatedly called on the PKK to pursue a non-violent course of action. 

Prime Minister Barzani has made it clear that such attacks like the one in Diyarbakir only complicate the situation. He said that the Kurdistan Region of Iraq cannot be used as a safe haven by the PKK and the KRG abhors this and other violent attacks. 

The KRG considers friendship with its neighbours to be a top priority, and hopes that Wednesday's PKK attack will not derail KRG and Iraqi efforts to build stronger relations with Turkey. Prime Minister Barzani reiterated his and the KRG's commitment to work directly with Turkey on a long-term solution to the PKK and any and all issues in KRG-Iraq-Turkey relations. 

The KRG extends its sympathy and condolences to the victims of this attack and to the victim's families.

(VR)




Haha, yeah thats right, but barzani also said that he is not going to fight any other kurds for the sake of any country.
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 idea the problem with the guy like you is that : if you get caught with your pants down in a closet in london . you either saying it wasen't youShocked or saying it is normal and that is your right to chooseWink
please don't say you did that for kurd's sake!!!
i told you stop insulting the arabs . turks, iranian and  other kurds  and call yourself iraqi kurd freedom fighter Shockedand try to give an wrong image of kurds and kurdish population.in my eyes you are a provcator imposter not a kurdAngry
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 idea the problem with the guy like you is that : if you get caught with your pants down in a closet in london . you either saying it wasen't youShocked or saying it is normal and that is your right to chooseWink
please don't say you did that for kurd's sake!!!
i told you stop insulting the arabs . turks, iranian and  other kurds  and call yourself iraqi kurd freedom fighter Shockedand try to give an wrong image of kurds and kurdish population.in my eyes you are a provcator imposter not a kurdAngry
that's it


You can think what ever you want of me, but its a fact barzani said he is not willing to fight any kurds for the sake of another country.
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no wonder mister barzani said that, because pkk is a turkish problem in first hand it is turkish governements task to take care of that not KRG. 
 beside that no kurds in iran or iraq or anywere wishes a  very brutal act against the kurds no matter which ideologi they have and wish that turkey by offering amnesty and respecting  human right  and find a human and civilised solution for this problem and not slaughter of pkk members.
  there are many people inside pkk which  are kurds and they may not all agree with the policy of their leaders and their terorist actions too.
 kurds are not a people who fight for love of hatered .
 they fight  because they have been drawn in a conflict against their will.
 they defend their home and  cultural and linguestical freedom and do not hate anyone , because they are arabs, or turk or iranians.
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  Kalhur you are just ignorant. Did you ever spoke in front of an soldier at that time to an kurd in Turkey? if yes i don´t believe either you were there you are just talking bullshit never seen war never been there but trying just to talk. MY ONKEL GET KILLED JUST BECAUSE HE WAS AN KURD AN THEY THOUGHT HE WOULD HELP THE PKK (WHAT WAS NOT RIGHT) BEVOR THAT THEY TORTURED THEM. So now tell me you ignorant guy why did they destroyed over 3000 villages with napalm before the pkk even existed? Do you know how many kurds get tortured in diyarbakir prison before PKK? You have no idea of anything. just talking big. Was it because of the PKK they attacked Dersim in 1938 and killed thousands of kurdish alevis????You are ignorant nothing else  

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the problem with brainwashed people is just they believe they know every thing and the others are ignorant.
 Germany and france and england have been in war many times , but now they are friends they have killed millions of people from both sides.
  i never met a french or german saying they hate each others now.
 the ottomans burned down city of tabriz in iran . is it reason that iranians shall hate turcs  in eternity for that.
hatred against other people is wrong.
indoctrination to hate other peoples is brainwashing  used by facists and dictaures.
 iraqi baathists with their brainwashed army has desteryed  hundreds of villages in our region the number of killed and casualty is much over 1 million!!
 it is not reason to hate  all the arabs for that., 
NO because sadam did the same to shia arabs too and sunni arabs in kwait  and almost everybody which diden't agree with him.
the ideology of communism  adapted by PKK is a dead idologyDead. it has not worked well  anywhere not even in mother land of communism (soviet union). they abondoned this ideology themselves.
if your uncle is killed (RIP) by turkish  gov . what shall i say when entier villages of my relatives have been killed by sadam forces ? the baath mad governement with ideology of hatred have done a great damage to humanity.
i have never said turkish governement has done every thing right , but doing the same wrong thing as  they did can not be justified.
a marxist organisation has no support by local population nor intelectuals who know what communist dictaureship is.
 attacking civil population and bombing civils are not human and condamned by everyone , no matter it is done by kurds or arabs or turcs!!but defending the villages and civils like iraqi kurd peshmerga has done is brave and just.
i do not call anyone to be stupid or ignorant . this kind of language is taught by political opportunist organisations to deal with people who know what they are standing for.it is basic opportunist play!!
if you believe that PKK is right, then why don't you join them in their camp ? i have never stopped you!!! they are just now in very critical situation and need all the help they can get  on place and you are young and brave at least on internetShocked and there are thousends of their supporters like you in europe defending discoteckes, isen't that time to go and  help them?
 what is your support and ideology is good for, if you do nothinng for that??
 please go and help them, before it is too late!!! i don't know frankley what are you arguing for? have i stopped you to join the PKK camp?? it is absolutley time to join your PKK brothers now.
farewell  may LENIN be with you  and MARX watch your behind ! and MAO TSE (DUNG )bless you!!!


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back to the topic again! why kurds should be german and not austrian???
 wasen't hitler himself austrianQuestion??? actually both kurds and austrian are living in mountainsLamp then they share same kind of habitat!!! actually austrians have more similar y hg to the kurds than germans doShocked

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J1
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8
28
11
22
0
5
6
4
0
2
12
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3
7
11
18
20
12
6
11
0
0
0
15
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3
2
9
11
21
40
8
0
0
0
5
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3.5
9
11
31
24.5
2
4.5
2.5
3
0
0
10.5
Iran
3
16.5
6.5
10
12
10
4.5
3
4
4
2.5
27
Iraq
5
6.5
11
3
27
31
11
7
3
0
0
0
Kurdistan (Turkey)
25
19.5
8
12.5
7
0
2.5
6.5
0
0
0
18.5
Lebanon
3.5
3
6.5
5
34
13
20
3.5
5
1
0
5.5
Morocco
0
0
4
4
3
9
80
0
0
0
0
0
Syria
5
10
13.5
3
17
30
11.5
5
3
0
0
2
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1
4.5
3.5
4
30
52
4
0
0
0
0
Germany
16
1.5
4.5
16
44.5
5
4.5
0
5.5
1
0.5
1
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J1
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3
17
3
9
16
2
24.5
3.5
22
0
0
0
Austria
12
6
2
26
23
8
12
0
9
1
0.5
0.5


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Hey you, four Kurds fighting each other. You're not doing the Kurdish cause any good, you know.

I think you four should take a little break, for goodness sake. Go on. On your bikes.Thumbs Up
 
Come back the day after tomorrow. After you all have got yourselves a good time out.
 
Meanwhile, maybe you each wanna let your steam off in another topic. And don't ya get into another brawl with someone else, k.Approve
 
Just ta take your minds off fighting for a little while, here's a hawt lookin Indo-Semito-Turko-Iranian babe for ya all:
Meet my divine darling ... the elegant, beautiful, delicious, delightful, bountiful ... Maryam the Magnificent.
 
Now .. let's have us a little guessing game ... is she ... Trojan, Assyrian, Kurdish, Scythian, Cymmerian, Sarmatian, Medean, Lydian, Phrygian, Thracian, Hatti, Mittani, Sumerian, Babylonian, Chaldean, Akkadian or Persian?
 
 


Edited by Shield-of-Dardania - 17-May-2010 at 23:45
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