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    Posted: 03-Jun-2013 at 12:33
we are more persian than persians lolLOL

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Heres why DNA tribes is a Joke.  Their results from last year, whre they had a component called Persian where Kurds and Turkmenistan had higher then Persians themselves LOL

Iran doesn't equal with Persian. There are different ethnic groups are living in Iran. If the research took the all Iranians as in Iran title. Other groups can be decrease persian percent and this can be reason of this percent so it explains why that much small. 
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Originally posted by Don Quixote

How are Kurds Egyptian and Arab? Their language is an Indo-European one.

They are not Egyptian and Arab, they are more Egyptian and Arab (3.4%-4.4%) then Turkey (2.5%-2.5%)

They have been living in the zone between Indo-Europeans and Arabs for many years. Why you are suprising? I don't get it. Of course they can have Arab genes.


This is why DNAtribes is considerd nonsense.  They label their components with ethnicity, which is wrong.  In Dodecad it is labeld South West Asian and North African for example.  Because Kurds and Turks have the Arab component, it does not mean they have Arab ancestry.  It is just a very ancient connection in the region before long before the Arab identiy.


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Ollios, I would not take DNAtribes study to  mean anything.  People in the Automosal community do not take DNAtribes articles and results seriously.  It is better to look at Dodecad and Eurogenes.  DNAtribes results always differ greatly every few months.

Kurds are west asians with high amounts of South Central Asian DNA same for Iranians which clearly indicates that there was a population movenment from Bactria–Margiana Archaeological Complex to west asia and high probability is it came from the early Iranians as it is present in all west iranians.


Heres why DNA tribes is a Joke.  Their results from last year, whre they had a component called Persian where Kurds and Turkmenistan had higher then Persians themselves LOL

http://oi49.tinypic.com/33nwas0.jpg


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Arab is one, Egyptian is other, no much territorial connection with Egypt. But all in all, ok.
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Originally posted by Don Quixote

How are Kurds Egyptian and Arab? Their language is an Indo-European one.

They are not Egyptian and Arab, they are more Egyptian and Arab (3.4%-4.4%) then Turkey (2.5%-2.5%)

They have been living in the zone between Indo-Europeans and Arabs for many years. Why you are suprising? I don't get it. Of course they can have Arab genes.
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How are Kurds Egyptian and Arab? Their language is an Indo-European one.
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Well, I wouldn't argue about colours, especially when it comes to hair and eyes, fair hair and eyes are recessive in Asia Minor anyway. Facial features may be more telling, DNA will be even more, but I don't have data on that.For me the language is more important.

It seems clear to me that the Kurds are a remnant of much older ethnic layer that the Turks are; now if they are Median, Lydian, or Persian can be only a guess, whether more or less educated one.

I believe that Iranic people and germanic people come from same root somewhere near Causcasia l
This is like Serbs are not Russian and Russians are not Serbs but both of them have Slavic roots.

According to this map, Kurds have more North-European similarity then, Iranians and Turks, but just 1.6%. However they are more Egyptian and Arab then Turks


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I liked your comment "inferiority complex". Anyway (one) ancient civilisation was from Persia. I have been working even with them (Iranians) twice  for a long time during my life for UN and international athletism = sport.  They are really nice persons. They even were drinking Chivas Regal with me...and a lot outside Iran.  It is really very sad to see that DNA (Y-DNA, mtDNA, Autosomal STR and SNP etc) has revealed tooo much....really all.

But we are now everywhere  in the world even before Columbus. One Iranian Prime Minister during his visit in Mexico mentioned about the ancient contacts between Iranians and a Mexican Amerindian tribe Zapotec due to their common art from Iran. It was a matter of Iranian Qashai Kilim and the Mexican Zapotec rugs. Instead the Kurdian "Chief" during his visit in Israel also commented a lot but mainly about the common ancient genetic (genetic = DNA) roots with Israel.

What are we searching with stupid topics like this?
Only ignorance or....?
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Typical statements made by racist Iranians with an inferiority complex:

"[insert Iranic ethnic group] have blonde hair, blue eyes and white skin [insert a wall of text about some genetic study]."
"[insert Iranic ethnic group] language is closely related to German [insert words that share some similarities]."
"Iranians were admired by the Nazis and were excluded from the Nuremberg Racial Laws."
"Iranians and Germans are brothers. Anyone who disagrees must be an anti-Iranian revisionist."

Make no mistake, I'm not trying to mock my own people. Some of those claims might not be entirely false. But this kind of behavior is both embarrassing and degenerating. I understand that the current dire situation in Iran is the reason why some Iranians are trying to find something that heals their wounds. However, pro-white racism and ethno-centrism are not going to help. For me, a simple look at the distant past of our people is enough to make me proud of our heritage. Forget about the Germans, we have no need to impress anybody.

Being Iranian is about your heart and your mind, not the color of your eyes, hair or skin.
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Kurds are genetically german ? I read in internet.Hitler says " Kurds are Germanic "
 
Kurds have Blonde hair , blue eye

Please don't mix Y DNA haplogroups of the Kurds and Germans. You are closer to the truth, if you say that Mitanni was Kurdish under "German" (Aryan) leadership from India.
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Well, I wouldn't argue about colours, especially when it comes to hair and eyes, fair hair and eyes are recessive in Asia Minor anyway. Facial features may be more telling, DNA will be even more, but I don't have data on that.For me the language is more important.

It seems clear to me that the Kurds are a remnant of much older ethnic layer that the Turks are; now if they are Median, Lydian, or Persian can be only a guess, whether more or less educated one.
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My dear, I wanted to draw attention to the history and culture! ... because playing a major policy of denial and annihilation against of the Kurds!

I drew a lot attention. Is there any non Kurd-civillization in the middle east? Luwian, Hittites, Medieans and also Scythians are Kurd. Maybe topic should be "Germans are Kurd?" Wink

Originally posted by Don Quixote

 
What does it mean "the majority"? 

This majority (Newroz 2013 in Diyarbakır)



Fair hair is less common in Kurds. Yes some of them have really pale skin, fair hair and beautiful coloured eyes but not majority.
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I agree, this is all he has done since he has been on the Forum which is post pictures and Videos in old threads.  He also seems to keep posting the liter looking Kurds, majority of Kurds do not look like that. 


What does it mean "the majority"?
I have met some Kurds, they all have some Indo-European look to them, light skin, some have almond-shaped eyes. Of course, there are mixed marriages over the centuries. I also spoke to a Kurdish person who told me that there are many grammar and vocab similarities between old Kurdish and German, as he knows the both languages /this doesn't mean that I say that Kurds are German, but that Kurdish is an Indo-European language/.

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My dear, I wanted to draw attention to the history and culture! ... because playing a major policy of denial and annihilation against of the Kurds!
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I agree, this is all he has done since he has been on the Forum which is post pictures and Videos in old threads.  He also seems to keep posting the liter looking Kurds, majority of Kurds do not look like that. 
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Good looking people. But what is the point?
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