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    Posted: 24-Aug-2004 at 05:06
After Romans had left Britain and also when they were there, there were many uprises, and cassaults from Vikings, Saxons, pikts, and other barbarians (as romans called them). How should they have acted with it? Left GB? Conquered the island? Made unbreachable castles?
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  Quote Yiannis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Aug-2004 at 05:39

The best way would be to approach the local nobles, give them privelegdes/titles/money, absorve them into Roman culture/society and thus ensure the submission of the people. If some of them would not agree to the Roman way, wage war at them with those locals who do as allies.

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  Quote Cornellia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Aug-2004 at 06:52

That's pretty much what the Romans did - well that and have a few legions around.   Never hurts when you're trying to whip a country into submission.  LOL

But though this helped subdue the country and did leave a small influence, in the end much was forgotten within a few generations. 

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  Quote Cywr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Aug-2004 at 07:36
IIRC, some Saxons were originaly brought over as mercenaries to fight the Picts.
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  Quote Cornellia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Aug-2004 at 09:19

The story is that Vortigern invited the Saxons over to help him keep his throne which he'd stolen fair and square from the rightful (and very young) king, Constans.

Vortigern may have come to power in Britain in the late 430s or early 440s (although some speculate that he was the ruler during the visit of St. Germanus of 429), possibly as "high-king." It is believed that Vortigern is not a name at all, but a title, meaning "over king."

According to the "Historia Brittonum," a ninth century compilation of writings by a Welsh monk called Nennius, Vortigern came to power threatened with three dangers on his mind:

"Vortigern ruled in Britain and during his rule in Britain he was under pressure, from fear of the Picts and the Irish (Scots), and of a Roman invasion, and, not least, from dread of Ambrosius."

You can read more by visiting the Medieval Sourcebook. 

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/nennius.html

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  Quote rider Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Aug-2004 at 09:31
Wass Constant a Christian, and who came after Vortigern??? 
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  Quote mauk4678 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Aug-2004 at 20:30

Most of the Nobility in Britain were already Latinized by that time. In fact, they and the urban population of such cities as Londinium, Eboricum and Camulodunum were virtually the only ones who were.

 By the time that the conditions in Britain had become truly dire, the whole of the empire had decayed too much moraly, militarily and culturally that the will of the Romans was just outdone by the will of the native peoples.  The same is true for the empire in general. The vibrance of the "younger peoples" was simply more than the apathetic Romans could bear.

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  Quote Roughneck Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Aug-2004 at 01:02
After Boudica I don't think Rome did face many rebellions, and the Britons didn't force them out.  The legions were withdrawn to protect Rome.
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  Quote Dawn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Aug-2004 at 13:24
They did face a few revolts after Boudicca's: two in the second centery that I rememer for surebut they faced more of a problem after that with would be emporers coming out of Britannia (half a dozen or more IIRC)and outside invation attemps. 
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  Quote rider Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Aug-2004 at 13:44
emperors of britain...that would be cool... how many legiones were stationed there.
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  Quote Dawn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Aug-2004 at 13:52

 3  at most times IIRC



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