Moorish influence in Spain

In what language? It says on wiki that they are a Berber tribe, and I'm pretty sure Berbers are a Caucasian group.

Originally posted by Arab Originally posted by opuslola What about the Moorish influence upon Italy and France?   Averroes, Iberian Muslim philosopher, greatly influenced European Renaissance thinkers, and his works were widely circulated around Europe.   Can anyone give me a real example as to why they were considered as Islamists? Other than hearsay, and ancedotal materials, just where is the evidence?   The Almoravids were quite tolerant of other faiths; it was the Almohads who gave them a bad rap. They caused many Jews and Christians to emigrate. But we must remember that under the Moors the Jews of Iberia underwent a golden age.

So true, the Moors were very tolerant of other faiths in Spain and their rule was deemed quite fair and prosperous. Of course, we all know the unfortunate chaotic end. Spaniards from the Kingdom of Castille were not satisfied with prosperity and thought they deserved to rule all of Iberia. The Moors who had enjoyed a very peaceful reign for centuries had very few armies stationed in the kingdom, this was their downfall. Things only got worse with the famous Spanish Inquisition when both Jews and Muslims were lynched and kicked out of Spain. Most of the Sephardim Jews settled afterwards in North Africa and interestingly enough, they still speak this language called Ladino which is Hebrew with severe Spanish influences.

Originally posted by Arab Originally posted by opuslola What about the Moorish influence upon Italy and France?   Averroes, Iberian Muslim philosopher, greatly influenced European Renaissance thinkers, and his works were widely circulated around Europe.   Can anyone give me a real example as to why they were considered as Islamists? Other than hearsay, and ancedotal materials, just where is the evidence?   The Almoravids were quite tolerant of other faiths; it was the Almohads who gave them a bad rap. They caused many Jews and Christians to emigrate. But we must remember that under the Moors the Jews of Iberia underwent a golden age.

Both the Almohads and Almoravids were inconsistent in that regard to say the least, both followed a general patter of being harsh early on, then relenting back to the norms pretty soon afterwards, and then go through a period where they are generally tolerant with occasional fits of intolerance.

Edited by RollingWave - 27-May-2011 at 05:25

What did the oldest original written script say about name!Without cosmetics and guessing!Original Moors documents,not scripts of their enemies?


Edited by medenaywe - 28-May-2011 at 19:11

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Averroes_closeup.jpg/200px-Averroes_closeup.jpg&imgrefurl=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Averroes&h=224&w=200&sz=20&tbnid=drsqPiWCEctpzM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=80&prev=/search%3Fq%3DIBN%2BRUSHD%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=IBN+RUSHD&docid=GavFDXJFGfq2GM&sa=X&ei=R5wJT6rvGanE4gSL9siNCA&ved=0CF8Q9QEwBg&dur=278

There is a very important point that we seem to be forgetting here, the arabs and persians used drawings mostly to retell historical events as opposed to creative inspiration (see egyptology).