Moorish influence in Spain

An interesting question but one that has been explored a number of times, I presume!

I will however review the site you have shown, and sometime later (I hope) I will respond with a better answer!

Regards,

Dear Sander! I wish I knew how to transfer pictures to this site? I would sure help me!

But, just like my inability to make inter-net sites become touch and transfer, I just do not understand the technology! As Yoda might have said; "Stupid, I am!" I can barely move the little "smiley faces" around, and I even refrain from using them most of the time.

I also do not have any idea how every one else is able to highlight in white, the words of another and then insert their response! Thus I have to use quotation marks, and names, and my response, etc.!

But, that is my weakness and my failure, I suppose? It just seems that these sites do not come with a "how to do it page!"

All of the above BS, aside, I also know that you are a big mover and shaker on other history sites! Your feeble mention of 353 posts does in no way explain how you are now and it seems for some time have become a moderator!

To be somewhat trivial, I would have to suppose that you are a real "Moderate?" chuckle!

But, just how does Cyrus know this?

That is, I presume that it is he, the "owner" of this site, is the one who both nominates and approves personages to become "moderators!"?

You may answer via PM, if you wish!

But, as regards your last post, I would suggest that there had to be a great deal of "scientific" work established before such realism in painting and sculpture "again became as good as that of the ancients!"

Again, we must presume that all knowledge of realistic sculpture and painting, disappeared for hundreds of years, and the "old" or "ancient" abilities had to be "re-learned!"

You choice to post the painting above, shows certain elements such as "depth perception" and body musculature representation that can only be the result of numerous years of study and practice!

In other words, I do not see a "dark age!", but a continuum of learning! I rather doubt that the leaders of Rome, actually sat upon or within ruins, whilst passing laws, etc.!

I have, again, rambled enough!

Regards,

Edited by opuslola - 29-Apr-2010 at 15:52

Thanks Sander! As you well know, I am most ancient and mostly computer illerate! (Strangely I did understand a lot about DOS!)

I have trouble following most all (modern) computer promts, etc.!, since they seem to make assumptions that the operator understands things that they consider normal!

Maybe it is because I have a "love/hate relationship" with it?

Regards,

Originally posted by Arab   From what century was that Islamic drawing?   And some Muslim contributions to the West are undeniable, such as paper. The Muslims also preserved many ancient Greek manuscripts, such as the mathematical and geometric treatise Euclid's Elements, which Adelard of Bath, an English scholar, translated into Latin from Arabic.

one thing i dont understand is what was the exact reason moors became so advanced in every thing? i mean i could understand egyptians, persians, iraqis, indian muslims being advanced because these civilizations already had a track record of advancement before islam, however moors were mostly made of nomadic berbers and arabs from hejaz, weren't they? so how did they get so advance so quickly when went to spain?

Originally posted by balochii one thing i dont understand is what was the exact reason moors became so advanced in every thing? i mean i could understand egyptians, persians, iraqis, indian muslims being advanced because these civilizations already had a track record of advancement before islam, however moors were mostly made of nomadic berbers and arabs from hejaz, weren't they? so how did they get so advance so quickly when went to spain?

I think you are overlooking the fact that one of the biggest achievements of the Moors was in the field of Architecture and Geometry. Let us not forget the Al Hambra Palace and many other imposing beautiful structures that were built in Cordoba, Granada and Sevilla. Moors were also known to have improved the Greek Kythara into an instrument that still exists today, the Oud. This had a major impact on spreading art in the form of music as we hear of European 'Troubadours' and 'Bards' who travelled across Europe with their Guitars. And of course we can't forget the fact that they preserved Greek sciences and even improved them.

I think it comes from Mauri, the name of a black North African tribe

What about the Moorish influence upon Italy and France? What about an emperor named "Maurice", etc.?

Can anyone give me a real example as to why they were considered as Islamists? Other than hearsay, and ancedotal materials, just where is the evidence?

During the time of Shakespeare did any English literature use the word Moslim, or Islam, etc.?

Besides time, just what else seperates the pirates who inhabited N. Africa for centuries before the Barbary Pirates, and they, it seems, ran amuck for over two centuries.

Just checking!

Regards,
Ron

Originally posted by opuslola What about the Moorish influence upon Italy and France?