Why Muslims are a dangerous people?!

Originally posted by Athena This is a result of revelation religion, and believing there is a God who have us know his will through religious authority.  The more I deal with this reality on the Internet, more I think we really need to oppose such religious notions, not just oppose Islam, but Christianity and Judaism as well.

Edited by Cryptic - 30-Jan-2011 at 12:02

And?, Judaism, came last?

Originally posted by Cryptic Originally posted by Athena This is a result of revelation religion, and believing there is a God who have us know his will through religious authority.  The more I deal with this reality on the Internet, more I think we really need to oppose such religious notions, not just oppose Islam, but Christianity and Judaism as well.   Abusive authority is hardly unique to Abramamic religous systems.  Take communism for example.  Communism is a humanistic philosophy / political ideology that is derived from human "reason".   Yet, Communist leaders have met and usually exceeded the worst abuses of Abrahamic   religous sytems.    Originally posted by Athena But then by my name you can see I am Hellenist and Hellenist opposed the religion when there was only Judaism advancing the problem.   Is Hellinism a theistic system, or is it a humanistic system?

Humanistic.  Humanism results from the study of Greek and Roman classics in the Middle Ages, and was the focus of liberal education in the US until 1958, when liberal education was replaced with Germany's model of education for technology.  At which point moral training was left to the church, making the US smart, but not wise.  

I don't believe I am opposed to communism, however, I do understand the problems of bureaucratic organization.   Not that long ago in the US, a person's property was hers/his to do with as the owner wanted.  Today the owner can not add a porch or change a window without a building permit.  To me this is an intolerable violation of property and individual rights.   In the US government was not responsible for everyone having a job, only that commerce was fair and just.   However, that fairness and justice, did not mean government provided social security of any kind.   National wealthy was created by cheap labor, just as China and other countries are using cheap labor to build wealth.  In the US there was no rent, food or medical subsidies for the poor, no Worker's Compensation nor unemployment benefits, and no retire pensions.     You seem to be saying there is something wrong with communism.  What?

To bring this back to the Muslim issue, what kind of social benefits are Muslim countries providing their people.  Is their theocracy morally superior in real humanistic terms?  Evidently Norway is a very successful socialist country, with very low church attendance.  Why are these people taking such good care of each other?   What about what is happening in those countries where people believe their government is failing them?   Muslim Egypt and Iran being two of them.    In case it isn't obvious, I am advocating for humanism and strongly object to religion. 

Originally posted by medenaywe Nor Islam is "Elephant in porcelain shop" neither  any other religion.Once upon a time most of the people of Mediterranean were practiced same religion.They were conquered.Christianity came first.War against idols was nothing else but simple erasure of there entity and culture.But still they were dangerous connected with one religion.Islam came after.Wasteless numerous conflicts after were ideal way for there masters to ruled them and controlled there population.    And now we have this above.Absurd polemic about good and bad,God and Evil,etc..etc...    That was the main purpose for there masters.Believe me they did it,did not they?

If we are to speak of the history of religion in this area, I think we should start the mythologies of Summer, Egypt and Persia.  Then perhaps the Jews and the phenomenon of this tribes mythology being adopted by Romans and Arabs and then spread around the world.  Non of this mythology is pure.  It is all blended, and I think it is unfortunate that people study their own holy books, and believe the books are God's special revelation and then lie about everyone else to justifying their prejudices, persecutions and wars. 

Were 20 century's wars all around middle East similar to Crusaders wars?Christianity used more technologies and mercenaries last century,radical Islam ignorance and superstitious human brain?!? 

Originally posted by medenaywe Were 20 century's wars all around middle East similar to Crusaders wars?Christianity used more technologies and mercenaries last century,radical Islam ignorance and superstitious human brain?!?

No they are not but I am not clear on your second question medenaywe- maybe restate it -

Originally posted by medenaywe I was talking about weapons that were used  by  both sides.My personal opinion  is  that both sides  are using weapons from same companies also!?!Maybe basic reason for existence of both of them is War Industry and human ethnic cleanse!?!

I don't know but still it is a scary thought. I cannot say the New World Order is not beyond this.