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    Posted: 03-Feb-2010 at 14:36
My dear Great Simba!

Against all constraints placed against me, by Redclay, etal, I just have to show you this!

http://www.aolnews.com/world/article/amid-american-malaise-canada-envy-returns/19343111

Maybe it confirms both of our views?

My great regards to you!

But, of course I know that you may not regard it highly?


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Just out, if N. Carolian teachers have their way, High School students will be taught American History beginning with Rutherford B. Hayes and the year 1877!

What happens to those who went before?

I.e. Washington, Adams (two), Jefferson, Madison, Lincoln, etc.?

Ah! Modern "progressive education" at its best!

Last reported on Fox News Channel, at 1735 hours!

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Originally posted by opuslola

My dear Great Simba!

Against all constraints placed against me, by Redclay, etal, I just have to show you this!

http://www.aolnews.com/world/article/amid-american-malaise-canada-envy-returns/19343111

Maybe it confirms both of our views?

My great regards to you!

But, of course I am merely kidding!


I have gone to part of your posts to get an idea why you were warned but I had to resume work so I will finihs tomorrow. I am a bit confused but I don't think Red Clay did it to be mean, he has always been fair. Far as I am concerned this recent post is fine but I wonder why it won't take links???

anoher link for you TGS

http://www.hslda.org/parentalrights/default.asp


great now it is working

Simba have you ever iistened to the speech given by Winston Churchill about socialism titled:

Present Dangers Of The Socialist Movement

I tried to find the video of the actual speech but could not.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Feb-2010 at 15:49
Well, "eaglecap" I guess I shan't provide the quotes available from Savage on his radio show today?
As to any restrictions that "Redclay" has added, I have no idea!

I do not think he would do so?

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Originally posted by opuslola

Well, "eaglecap" I guess I shan't provide the quotes available from Savage on his radio show today?

Perhaps the Great Simba, might get his/her feeling hurt?

As to any restrictions that "Redclay" has added, I have no idea!

I do not think he would be so "anal?"

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I see no problem but it is useless since he does not like Savage at all and would probably totally disregard him. Even though I do not like TGS politics I suggest not making any personal attacks on anyone to avoid further trouble also, only advice. I don't want to see you suspended or banned since we agree on this topic. I do not know TGS in real life and even though we don't agree he might be a great person in real life. I have liberal friends and we focus on other things; camping, outdoors, hunting, photography etc Many of the teachers I work with are libs and other than their politics they are good people, meaning I don't agree with them.

I am not sure about any restrictions with Red Clay- he has never restricted me but Friday I will complete reading the rest of your threads and others also like TGS posts.

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Hello the Great Simba- I will have time tomorrow to research a few sites I found to support my premise. I hope to show case law against some school districts. I have too much going on today to read over the articles I will choose.

One is:
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I wonder what happened to The great simba? I had hope to start looking at some links for him but he is not here. Nice guy- lES_bih friends afterall and get along on this thread.
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Oh eaglecap, dont worry, I'll have a post for you soon. Wink
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Originally posted by TheGreatSimba

Oh eaglecap, dont worry, I'll have a post for you soon. Wink


I will be gone a few days but I look forward to this. I am waiting for a response from Thomas Moore Law Center to post some cases to defend my posts.
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I will go through these articles and SHOW YOU how these sources are OVER EXAGERATING and even FEAR MONGERING about a problem that IS NOT THAT BIG AN ISSUE.


Lets start with this one:


http://www.newswithviews.com/public_schools/public_schools1.htm


Title: Homosexual Agenda Escalates in Public Schools (Scary!!!!)


First of, this article deals mostly with issues regarding high schools. We are talking about kids aged 14 and up, they can handle themselves.


Whoever wrote this article is anti-homosexual, as in not just what it represents, but homosexuals in general. He is essentially against equal rights and equal treatment for homosexuals. He is, an essence, a homophobe. I quote:


Yet it could be worse. There are as yet no openly "gay" teachers at the school who might pose a risk to students as poor role models, or worse -- the threat of sexual molestation. People who profess a homosexual preference are much more likely to molest children and adolescents, especially males.



Now on to the article titled: School Sued Over Homosexual Tolerance Training


http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?ID=20157


First of all, if the title alone in combination with the website shows the deep hatred against homosexuality that even “tolerating” them is unacceptable...


are forced to participate in diversity training, are told homosexuality cannot be changed and are warned not to say otherwise..."There is a specific attempt by the school to change the belief system of these students, who believe that the Bible teaches ... that homosexuality can be changed,"...


First of all, KEEP RELIGION OUT OF OUR GOVERNMENT AND OUT OF OUR SCHOOLS!


Second of all, the proponents of this suit argue that its a students right to harrass and be prejudiced against homosexuals in school and to confront them in school. This is wrong and unacceptable in a school argument. Their lawsuit is without merit and absolutely disgusting.


I also find it funny how they call the fight for human equality a “homosexual agenda”. Homosexuals are humans too, they deserve to be treated equally and have all the same rights as anyone else.


Regarding the article about the students suing Georgia Institute of Technology, that is a freedom of expression issue, not a “they're spreading homosexuality” issue. I'm sure the university would have barred students who were anti-black or anti-Islam as well, as those would also have been freedom of expression issues.



Eaglecap, several issues are really disturbing me at the moment. Your homophobia (possible homophobia?) and support of those who are against the homosexual civil rights movement. Why can you not provide any legitimate reliable neutral news organizations that support such fears?


I can tell you why. Because these fears are completely unfounded and all this is FEAR MONGERING. Tell me, do think the civil rights movement of the 60's was a good thing? Why are you against the civil rights movement going on now?



By the way, stop worrying about the straight kids in our schools. Homosexuals probably do not form more than 5% at any public school in America. Its the homosexuals who are constantly getting harassed and attacked.


gay”, “fag”, “faggot”, etc... are all commonly used on a daily basis. I even say them from time to time (its not something I'm proud of). This is a result of our culture. You know, 50 years ago they were saying "nigger"now they're saying "faggot", and you oppose Gay people fighting for their right to be treated like human beings and to be accepted?

Why would anyone choose to be homosexual in a society that persecutes them and insults them? THEY ARE BORN THIS WAY, ITS NOT A CHOICE, use common sense...



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Originally posted by opuslola

My dear Great Simba!

Against all constraints placed against me, by Redclay, etal, I just have to show you this!

http://www.aolnews.com/world/article/amid-american-malaise-canada-envy-returns/19343111
 


In what way does it support your view? The article says that Canada has less unemployment, tighter regulation on banking (which helped them avoid economic problems), and a universal health care that is cheaper and provides a better quality of life...

Canada is far more progressive and liberal than the US Wink Opuslola, just stop, you're trolling again.

Originally posted by opuslola

Just out, if N. Carolian teachers have their way, High School students will be taught American History beginning with Rutherford B. Hayes and the year 1877!

What happens to those who went before?

I.e. Washington, Adams (two), Jefferson, Madison, Lincoln, etc.?

Ah! Modern "progressive education" at its best!

Last reported on Fox News Channel, at 1735 hours!

Regards,


Oh my?!!! Fox "News" said it, it must be true...LOL When was the last time Fox "News" was actually considered a news network?


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Uh! Cough! I actually thought you might have actually read the article, where it states that a "Canadian" leader is having his medical proceedure done here in the good old USA, since there is quite a line up there in "perfect" healthcare heaven, which you believe is Canada!

Sorry you missed that part of the article!

Since you have not preferred to answer in the hours this has been exposed to the world, I shall place in quotation marks, the part that I thought might well apply to my view! Thus;

"And even while many U.S. liberals lament the missed chance to introduce a single-payer health insurance plan of the sort that keeps Canadian health expenditures lower and life expectancy higher, events in Canada this week have spotlighted that system's drawbacks. The premier of Newfoundland, Danny Williams, is heading to the U.S. this week for heart surgery he can't get under his province's health plan (although The Toronto Sun has reported that Williams, a public health care critic, could have had the procedure done elsewhere in the country)."

Do you remember when I said that "world leaders" come to the USA for medical work?

As OPUS, might well have said in "Bloom County" Pbfleeef! Or something close? (I think that meant tounge out and bleating, etc.)




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Originally posted by opuslola

Uh! Cough! I actually thought you might have actually read the article, where it states that a "Canadian" leader is having his medical proceedure done here in the good old USA, since there is quite a line up there in "perfect" healthcare heaven, which you believe is Canada!

Sorry you missed that part of the article!


Sorry you missed the part of the article that said he could have gotten the treatment somewhere else in Canada if he wanted to. Also, you obviously also missed the part that says that Williams is a CRITIC of public health care, which explains why he would choose to come to the United States, which is his right in the Democratic country of Canada:

And even while many U.S. liberals lament the missed chance to introduce a single-payer health insurance plan of the sort that keeps Canadian health expenditures lower and life expectancy higher, events in Canada this week have spotlighted that system's drawbacks. The premier of Newfoundland, Danny Williams, is heading to the U.S. this week for heart surgery he can't get under his province's health plan (although The Toronto Sun has reported that Williams, a public health care critic, could have had the procedure done elsewhere in the country).


Here are some other things that you might have missed...

The title of the article:


Amid American Malaise, Canada Envy Returns



Paul Krugman, the Nobel Prize-winning economist and New York Times columnist, has long been an admirer of the great Canadian way.


...in Canada there were no major bank failures, no subprime mortgage crises and no massive government bailouts. The reason: Canadian regulators kept Toronto's Bay Street banks from over-leveraging their assets and limited their ability to package debt into what turned out to be securitized time bombs, like the infamous collateral debt obligations.


there's even evidence that Canadians are more generous than Americans, at least in their response to the plight of Haiti. By latest estimates, total U.S. individual donations toward Haiti relief come to $560 million. Though there are only about a tenth as many Canadians as there are Americans, they've contributed $78 million -- and the Canadian government has pledged to match those donations one-to-one.


...The country's 8.4 percent unemployment rate may be lower than the U.S.'s 10 percent...


...U.S. liberals lament the missed chance to introduce a single-payer health insurance plan of the sort that keeps Canadian health expenditures lower and life expectancy higher...


Here is a suggestion opulola, next time you try to prove your point, its best not to use sources which contradict your position. This is a pro-canadian system article buddy.Wink

Check mate buddy, this is over.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Feb-2010 at 14:29
It's "not over untill the fat lady sings!" is an old USA football slogan!

"I've not yet begun to fight!"

"Wait until you see the whites of their eyes!"

And other slogans ad infinitum!

But, for now, you really do not interest me anymore!

But, it has been "real", and it has been "fun", but it is, as of now, not been "Real Fun!" chuckle!

My regards,


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Once again Opuslola, you have successfully avoided responding to a post which clearly compromises your position.

Stop trolling, you have already been warned once. You're comments, such as the above, are not productive and do not add to this discussion. Stop with the nonsense.

Oh, and here is something else for you to think about:

During O'Reilly interview with Jon Stewart (not the edited one shown on his program, but the full un-edited version), O'Reilly claims he is in touch with "regular folks" and lives in a "regular ol' house".

Here is his $3 MILLION dollar "regular ol' house":

http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/bill-oreillys-house/

Here is Glenn Beck's $4.25 MILLION dollar house:

http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/glenn-becks-house/

Rush Limbaugh's multiple MULTI MILLION dollar homes:

http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/rush-limbaughs-houses/
http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/rush-limbaughs-house/

Hm...interesting huh? These sure are regular folks trying to help out regular American's...

Here is a section from a recent BBC News article titled "Why do people vote against their own interests?"

In Texas, where barely two-thirds of the population have full health insurance and over a fifth of all children have no cover at all, opposition to the legislation is currently running at 87%.


It really is a shame how much influence people like Beck, O'Reilly, and Limbaugh have over people...particularly those who are conservative and ignorant about the reality of what is going on.



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Since you place such weight in the price of one's home, then you should see my home, which I would suggest might well be considered as a "multi-million dollar home?

And then TGS, you wrote;

"Stop trolling, you have already been warned once. You're comments, such as the above, are not productive and do not add to this discussion. Stop with the nonsense."

Hey, young guy! Are you a moderator?, or site regulator? Just what gives you, as a very young and "virginal poster", the "balls" to call any of us out?

The word "nonsense" seems mostly to apply to any and all legislation proposed by our current "Progressive" administration?

Let's see now, the national debt is now somewhere above 13 thousand billion dollars! And, inevtibally due to become some where in the area of 20 thousand billion dollars! And even more!!!

I am very glad that I have no children who might well be expected to pay such a debt to China, etc.!

So, if you like it, then please start to donate to your own children your fair share! I would suppose 85% if your pay might well do?

But, then just what would you live on? chuckle! (of course I assume that you actually earn enough money to actually not partake of the "earned income tax credit?")

But since the "nanny" state already exists, then maybe your "nanny" should also contribute her or his 85%?

Would not that all be fair?

Your Nanny! With all due regards!
By the way, my wife and I pay over $15,000 per year in just "income tax!"
Did we pay your salary?

Whose salary did you pay?

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Originally posted by opuslola

Since you place such weight in the price of one's home, then you should see my home, which I would suggest might well be considered as a "multi-million dollar home?


Oh ok, so you are also one of those rich conservatives who want to deny healthcare to the average American who cannot afford it or struggles to pay for it...

Why do you want to deny others the right to health just because you can afford it? Hell, why deny a universal health care plan that ALLOWS private hospitals to continue to do business for those who do not want to use public ones?

Originally posted by opuslola


And then TGS, you wrote;

"Stop trolling, you have already been warned once. You're comments, such as the above, are not productive and do not add to this discussion. Stop with the nonsense."

Hey, young guy! Are you a moderator?, or site regulator? Just what gives you, as a very young and "virginal poster", the "balls" to call any of us out?


Because you are trolling, read the rules. You even followed me to another thread to attack me:

Originally posted by opuslola

Sudenly TGS, is the modicum of virture and niceties?

Bravo!

But, of course, he failed to make known any sources!

But, that is the virtue of being young!


Thread: http://allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28130&PID=629254#629254

a completely unnecessary and off topic post.

Originally posted by opuslola


The word "nonsense" seems mostly to apply to any and all legislation proposed by our current "Progressive" administration?


you keep saying that yet you have nothing to back up your claim...

Originally posted by opuslola


Let's see now, the national debt is now somewhere above 13 thousand billion dollars! And, inevtibally due to become some where in the area of 20 thousand billion dollars! And even more!!!


It was $1.3 trillion when BUSH was in office, so why are you blaming Obama? Dead

Originally posted by opuslola


I am very glad that I have no children who might well be expected to pay such a debt to China, etc.!


Well, we can thank the GOP for that...

Originally posted by opuslola


So, if you like it, then please start to donate to your own children your fair share! I would suppose 85% if your pay might well do?

But, then just what would you live on? chuckle! (of course I assume that you actually earn enough money to actually not partake of the "earned income tax credit?")

But since the "nanny" state already exists, then maybe your "nanny" should also contribute her or his 85%?

Would not that all be fair?

Your Nanny! With all due regards!
By the way, my wife and I pay over $15,000 per year in just "income tax!"
Did we pay your salary?

Whose salary did you pay?


We are trying to fix the problems this country is facing, but certain people keep trying to stop us and keep insisting that the status quo is fine... I wonder who these people are? Shocked
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Above TGS wrote concerning the National Debt;

"It was $1.3 trillion when BUSH was in office, so why are you blaming Obama?"

Hey, that Obama is even better than a Wall Street investor, he was able to turn a $1.3 trillion debt, into a 13.0 trillion debt in just one year! Hip Hip Hooray! If you had New Math, this means that Obama and the Democrats took the terrible Republican and Bush debt and multiplied it by a factor of ten! 10x!

Yes, it seems it was all the fault of Bush!

I totally agree!

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Originally posted by opuslola

Above TGS wrote concerning the National Debt;

"It was $1.3 trillion when BUSH was in office, so why are you blaming Obama?"

Hey, that Obama is even better than a Wall Street investor, he was able to turn a $1.3 trillion debt, into a 13.0 trillion debt in just one year! Hip Hip Hooray! If you had New Math, this means that Obama and the Democrats took the terrible Republican and Bush debt and multiplied it by a factor of ten! 10x!

Yes, it seems it was all the fault of Bush!

I totally agree!

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Opuslola, stop talking about things you know nothing about. Atleast ATTEMPT to do some research, try to put some effort into your statements...

The deficit when Bush was president was $1.3 trillion, its now $1.6 trillion dollars under Obama, but the increase is due to the bad economy which the BUSH ADMINISTRATION left behind.

The national debt under the Bush administration, in December 2008, was almost $11 trillion. The national debt increased from $5.6 trillion in January 2001 to $10.7 trillion in December 2008. Bush DOUBLED our national debt.

Right now, the debt is close to $13 trillion, BUT TO SAY THAT ITS OBAMA'S FAULT IS ABSOLUTELY LUDICROUS BECAUSE HES ONLY BEEN PRESIDENT FOR ONE YEAR!

Because the American system as a whole is broken, Obama has to spend money to fix it, which causes more debt. Its a perpetual cycle that can only be stopped if we fix this broken system.

Bush was in power for 8 years and did absolutely nothing good for this country, he was the straw that broke the camels back, and now when an intelligent man finally comes into office and tries to fix things, he suddenly becomes a Muslim Communist Indonesian Terrorist who "hates white people".

Despicable and absolutely disgusting.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Feb-2010 at 17:55
Hey TGS, I already said in the post above that "Yes, it seems it was all the fault of Bush!" Just how much more support should I give your posts than that?

All wrongs were done by one Bush or another Bush, therefor, we must "burn the Bush!" Chuckle! And a wink!

TGS also wrote these words;

"Because the American system as a whole is broken, Obama has to spend money to fix it, which causes more debt. Its a perpetual cycle that can only be stopped if we fix this broken system."

By "fixing a broken system", I suppose you mean that America must change to "Socialism?"

Take care of yourself TGS!

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