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was Cyrus the Great/ Kourosh Bozorg zoroastrian?

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    Posted: 12-Jan-2010 at 21:30
If so, what's the source?
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  Quote Cyrus Shahmiri Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Jan-2010 at 04:21
It is difficult to answer, he could be a Zoroastrian or better to say a follower of Ahuramazda but he didn't proclaim his own beliefs, like what Darius the Great and other Persian kings did, maybe because of some political reasons.
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  Quote Messopotamian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Jan-2010 at 07:39
Torah,Calls Cyrus " God's man , Servant of Yhvh "
 
Cyrus The great was jew?
 
I dont think because He is Half Kurdish ( Median)


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  Quote SonOfIran Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Jan-2010 at 19:31
Originally posted by Messopotamian

Torah,Calls Cyrus " God's man , Servant of Yhvh "
 
Cyrus The great was jew?
 
I dont think because He is Half Kurdish ( Median)
 
Cyrus was a Persian, because his father Cambyses I was Persian. Cyrus' mother Mandane was Median because his father was Astyages, but her mother was Aryenis of Lydia.  So if you want to me as much precise as possible, Cyrus was 50% Persian, 25% Median, and 25% Lydian (Anatolian).
 
Lastly, Median does not necessarily mean Kurdish. Kurds are only ONE group out of many (Lurs, Bakhtiars, Gilaks ect.) whom are descendents of the Medes.
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  Quote Messopotamian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Jan-2010 at 09:27
Originally posted by SonOfIran

Originally posted by Messopotamian

Torah,Calls Cyrus " God's man , Servant of Yhvh "
 
Cyrus The great was jew?
 
I dont think because He is Half Kurdish ( Median)
 
Cyrus was a Persian, because his father Cambyses I was Persian. Cyrus' mother Mandane was Median because his father was Astyages, but her mother was Aryenis of Lydia.  So if you want to me as much precise as possible, Cyrus was 50% Persian, 25% Median, and 25% Lydian (Anatolian).
 
Lastly, Median does not necessarily mean Kurdish. Kurds are only ONE group out of many (Lurs, Bakhtiars, Gilaks ect.) whom are descendents of the Medes.
 
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Kurmanji tribe too descendents of Medes." Kure Mangi - Magi " ( Son of Magi )
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  Quote Azadi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Jan-2010 at 14:02
Originally posted by SonOfIran

Originally posted by Messopotamian

Torah,Calls Cyrus " God's man , Servant of Yhvh "
 
Cyrus The great was jew?
 
I dont think because He is Half Kurdish ( Median)
 
Cyrus was a Persian, because his father Cambyses I was Persian. Cyrus' mother Mandane was Median because his father was Astyages, but her mother was Aryenis of Lydia.  So if you want to me as much precise as possible, Cyrus was 50% Persian, 25% Median, and 25% Lydian (Anatolian).
 
Lastly, Median does not necessarily mean Kurdish. Kurds are only ONE group out of many (Lurs, Bakhtiars, Gilaks ect.) whom are descendents of the Medes.


Generally speaking this applies to all nations, Persian do not necessarily mean only todays Iranians - and so forth.


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  Quote Shield-of-Dardania Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-Apr-2010 at 23:21

Wasn't Cyrus called 'the Shepherd of the Lord' in the Bible, in acknowledgement of his good deeds in liberating captive Israelites from  Babylon?

Since the Quran also mentioned someone titled 'Dhulqarnain' (the Two Horned One), and Iranian scholars believe this was a reference to Cyrus, rather than Alexander as some others believed, as a 'man of the faith', 'a man of God' or similar, doesn't that infer that he would have been a follower of maybe Judaism, the sole Abrahamic faith of his time, rather than Ahuramazdic Zoroastrianism?
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  Quote svarun Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Apr-2010 at 00:33
Cyrus the Great is mentioned in the Bible as a shepherd of God because he saved the Jews from Babylonian captivity because he helped raise the Jerusalem temple again!
There is absolutely no possibility that he was a Jew he was definitely a Zoroastrian or Iranian pagan?
Scuttlebutt about his belonging to the Jewish faith are pure nonsense!
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  Quote Miller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Apr-2010 at 15:28
Relative to his time Cyrus was very tolerant and liberal in relation to other religions, cultures and languages.
That probably why he was successful make an empire that big.
He adopted all Mesopotamian religions including Judaism most probably just symbolically. The only difference is that Judaism is surviving religion today and others are not 


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There was a Jewish woman named Esther. An Achaemenid king married her, made her his queen, if I recall correctly. Cannot recall which one, a certain Artaxerxes, if I'm not mistaken.
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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Apr-2010 at 17:41
Does the "flaming furnace" have anything to do with this?
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  Quote Shield-of-Dardania Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Apr-2010 at 22:03

I just happened to see an old CD of that Esther story in a CD shop. The king's name was 'Ahasuerus'.

Problem is, in English, or Greek, 'Khashayar Shah' or its variant 'Khshayarsha' becomes 'Xerxes', while 'Ahasuerus', and sometimes also 'Artakhshathra' as well as 'Ardeshir', becomes 'Artaxerxes'. There's the lack of consistency in the transliteration.


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  Quote kalhur Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Apr-2010 at 15:40
my 2 cents:
it is hard to believe that he was jew. he was a good  and very tal aryan(unlike that short hateful german oneBig smile that killed the jews)!! actually he rescued the jews and brought them to iran  he was maybe turkish aryanLOL, because actually the great part of median people are  living in turkey now and  are called mountain turksBig smileas his mother was from median and not jewish , then he coulden't be jewWink  maybe a mountain turkLOL
if it is writen in the bible that he was a man of god , then he was surely a good and gentle christianBig smile but he diden't know that himself at that time!! because  JC wasen't born yet!! he lived 500 BCBig smilewe should ask the holy pop about this he surely have the right answerLOL!!


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  Quote Miller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Apr-2010 at 21:15
Originally posted by Shield-of-Dardania

There was a Jewish woman named Esther. An Achaemenid king married her, made her his queen, if I recall correctly. Cannot recall which one, a certain Artaxerxes, if I'm not mistaken.
That was Xerxes. Kind of ironic that he is the bad guys in current western movies


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  Quote sanjay Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Aug-2011 at 12:31
on avesta.org there is a book atharvan zarathushtra which mentions cyrus real name was kuru and this is mentioned in inscription in iran/turkey border and was from kuru dynasty which exiled from india after losing mahabharata war . the inscription mentions kuru claiming himself to be shatriya and shatriya among shatriyas(written as kshatriyas meaning warriors) and not as verejana in older persian symbolizing his origins.
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  Quote sanjay Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Aug-2011 at 12:50
link to more info about cyrus(kuru)http://avesta.org/chatterj_opf_files/slideshow.htm
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The Jews recognise certain gentiles as virtuous if they abide by the laws of Noah:
1. Do not commit idolatry
2. Do not murder
3. Do not steal
4. Do not commit adultery
5. Do not steal
6. Do not eat flesh from living animals
7. Establish courts of law

Cyrus fulfilled all of these requirements and could be considered an "honorary Jew." As king, he had the power to judge criminals and administer punishments: putting the idolaters who accused Daniel in the furnace, allowing Jews freedom of worship, and conquering Israel's enemies including the cruel Assyrians and Babylonians
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