What does Greek sound like to a non speak

Originally posted by Kenaney And also Agla=cry aglama= dont cry aglamak=crying Sana T�rk�e �gretmek haddime digil ama yalnis anlasilma olmus herhalde.

..is "bebek aglamasi" wrong? nop it is not...and you know it very well Or NOT? okuldaki türkçe öğretmeniniz kimdi?)))) but it is not the point here... dogru mu? I m not an expert in Turkish , is not my mother language, but i know the basics....and because i know both languages is more easy for me to recognise the words....also here we are just comparing languages and i gave some common words...and if this is still interesting to the members would be great to see this part of our languages ...Turkish, Greek, Arabic.....nothing more nothing less...so lets continue to do this...what do you think ...tamam mi?

always with a friendly mood...(my english i think are worst than my turkish )))))

I come from Samos and for "axe" we use "peleki" or "tsekouri".

"Baltas" is, as Menippos mentions, used to describe the butcher's cleaver.

As you see, there are also regional differences.
I live in a town called Kalamata, very very south.
The only use that we have here for balta is to chop meat.
If we wanna use an axe, then we use a tsekouri or a peleki.
Baltas is also a surname. (although not bery common)
But we also have surnames such as: Hatzaras, Yataganas, Sougias.
I believe these are all turkish knives, right?

Guys and gals, do you also experience very slow response of this website sometimes, or is it only me?

-- to Kenaney and BirTane

Bebek aglamasi is correct, and it is also correct
that aglama means 'do not cry' but they are not
the same verbal form: they are not distinguished in
spelling, but they are in pronunciation (by the
position of the accent). One is negative command,
the other infinitive - like

y�pma = don't do
onun bunu yapma-sini rica ettim =
                               I asked him to do that

Pete

Edited by Pete

Thank you PETE...you explained really well...

I m so sorry....I dont speak the Pontiac dialect and sometimes is difficult to understand it...what kind of words you wanna know ? (are you a Turk?)

 

Would me really interesting

Originally posted by Menippos Pete, I will look into it at some point, I cannot argue without proofs. I will be surprised if I am wrong, but if I am, be sure, I will take it as a man.

He's right Menippos! The ending -mi in ancient verbs is not passive. 

Kaneis lathos. In Ancient Greek (not in Katharevousa) there was an older class of verbs, ending in -mi (instead of -omega). It was not the passive voice (that is a separate thing). So there were (all active verbs)

Partially correct, the suffix -mi you present is just an older form of the -w Messipos did.
We could also use the similar examples of changes, of the suffix -iwn changed into -teros and -istos turned into - tatos

But the time difference isn't as great as you said, this change wasn't adopted with 'Kathareuousa' but with the introduction of 'Koine'. That is why in some of the N.Testament texts we find both forms being used.




Edited by Phallanx

After the research I had promised to carry out, I stand corrected by Pete and all other contributors.
Indeed, the oldest form is -umi, followed by all other forms.
I was mislead due to the fact that there was a time of transition when both ancient forms coexisted.
After all, I am only a Mechanical Engineer, who tries in whatever time he has left from work to remember what he had learned some aeons ago in high school...
(we were still scribbling with chalk on black, tarred plaques...)