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opuslola
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Topic: Chinese pyramids! Posted: 02-Oct-2009 at 16:54 |
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Have any of you ever looked up "Chinese pyramids?" Quite a bit of good photos and other obscure information out there, but do not expect anything from the communist controlled state! There exists almost absolutely not any personal access to the hundreds of sites, and no Chin. archaeologists have examined them either, at least to my knowledge!
A closed society still remains a "closed society!"
I have found numerous sites, and lots of photos, but no real information, only some speculation. These pyramids have been known of since WWII, or at worst Korea, so why is there no international demand for access?
Well because they will place you in jail if you ever go there! Even attempts to access most of these sites, will have the thought police down upon you! Do you have "thought police" where you live? We are getting very close to it here in the USA! Many of us are very worried!
Just what is this another "insane" led society, covering things up?
Just what could they be "covering up?"
So, look it up! It is "still" a free internet here!
Aw, here is one good place to start;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCAyg3-R9Aw
Just travel around, there are plenty of other sites on this tour de force!
Here is another one: http://www.lauralee.com/chi_pyr.htm
Edited by opuslola - 02-Oct-2009 at 17:07
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Posted: 02-Oct-2009 at 18:15 |
Opuslola 's links are appreciated ; even more so when they are inserted as hyperlinks ! 
One method is using the hyperlink button. That is the small blue- green globe, which is to the right of the W (Paste from Word button ) .
Insert the text and it will come out like :
which directs straight to the site.
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Thanks Sander, I am mostly computer illiterate! Well mostly illiterate every where!
I am used to sites that automatically recognize a hyper-link when written, I suppose the "http" or "www" is sensed and then converted? But since I know so little about these things I will look for the "blue-gree globe, which is to the right of the W (paste from Word button", where ever that is to be found or seen!
OH, I just looked up and saw a blue green button next to the "posted: Today" line, is that it?
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Posted: 02-Oct-2009 at 20:40 |
The blue-green globe is in the upper row when you type a text ( using "post reply").
You can also see it in the Quick reply window. This is the empty window below my posting ( which you are reading now) The same blue-green globe/ball is between ABC and the smiley. Click it, insert the link ( to the right of "http :// " ) and press ok ( or preview first )If you have questions you can PM me.
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Posted: 07-Oct-2009 at 15:07 |
Australian traders who, in 1912, met an old Buddhist monk who told them these pyramids are mentioned in the 5,000 year old records of his monastery as being "very old."
The second source you gave is very problematic.How in the world can therebe a 5000 year old Chinese buddist monestery, and where is this "Shensi" province? It is not pinyin nor wade-giles. So where exactly do you expect us to find these pyramids?
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Posted: 07-Oct-2009 at 19:38 |
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I wouldn't trust anything coming out of China right now, Chinese government is well-known for distorting history in order claim entire East Asian culture as Chinese origin.
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Posted: 07-Oct-2009 at 22:58 |
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Most Turks at Turkey believe this pryamids made by turks. So china hide them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSc72F0Ceow&feature=related
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There's also an "Order of the White Pyramid" whose sole purpose is to hide the secret of immortality from humankind. Qin Shi Huang isn't really buried at Xi'an, he's currently a vital part of the White Pyramid Conspiracy and exists immaterially in another dimension. He actually discovered the secret but decided that the truth shouldn't go out. Anyone who attempts to unveal the great phsychic energies of the white pyramid will be set upon by the thought police. Damn the commies for hiding the secrets of immortality from mankind so everyone has to die! <--- I didn't pull this out of thin air, people actually think this. In fact, the author of this idea is the same author of the link opslola gave us. The only difference is that Hardorf never put the Chinese government or "thought police" into his conspiracy theory while members here decided to add some flourish to his already epic story.
I hope you guys are joking, for your sake I really do. Because right now I see three tiers of China critics.
1) Those who genuinely care about the Chinese people and hope the government would improve, making every critique in an educated, calm manner. 2) Those who likes to throw dirt, wants to rant, and doesn't give a rats ass about the values they are supposedly fighting for 3) ... Yes, "dot dot dot" is all I can say b/c I don't see how I can ever relate with their thinking.
Guess which tier you belong to? I'll give you a hint: It's not number 2.
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^ Just I thought, why you Chinese mainlands are always Pro-Chinese govt, I'm smelling Chinese secret online police rat here. You guys never admits China's fault but always blames on others.
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Posted: 08-Oct-2009 at 03:29 |
Originally posted by Omnipotence
There's also an "Order of the White Pyramid" whose sole purpose is to hide the secret of immortality from humankind. Qin Shi Huang isn't really buried at Xi'an, he's currently a vital part of the White Pyramid Conspiracy and exists immaterially in another dimension. He actually discovered the secret but decided that the truth shouldn't go out. Anyone who attempts to unveal the great phsychic energies of the white pyramid will be set upon by the thought police. Damn the commies for hiding the secrets of immortality from mankind so everyone has to die! <--- I didn't pull this out of thin air, people actually think this. In fact, the author of this idea is the same author of the link opslola gave us. The only difference is that Hardorf never put the Chinese government or "thought police" into his conspiracy theory while members here decided to add some flourish to his already epic story.
I hope you guys are joking, for your sake I really do. Because right now I see three tiers of China critics.
1) Those who genuinely care about the Chinese people and hope the government would improve, making every critique in an educated, calm manner. 2) Those who likes to throw dirt, wants to rant, and doesn't give a rats ass about the values they are supposedly fighting for 3) ... Yes, "dot dot dot" is all I can say b/c I don't see how I can ever relate with their thinking.
Guess which tier you belong to? I'll give you a hint: It's not number 2.
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YUo say bla bla bla and bla. Nothing important for me. İ will ask you 1 question. Why these pyramids not open the public?
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Posted: 08-Oct-2009 at 07:34 |
| ^ Just I thought, why you Chinese mainlands are always Pro-Chinese
govt, I'm smelling Chinese secret online police rat here. You guys
never admits China's fault but always blames on others. |
Maybe we're pro-Chinese government b/c whenever you accuse the Chinese government, you put things such as "pyramid conspiracies" or "thought police" in the situation. How do you expect Chinese people to EVER take you people seriously? Perhaps Chinese people will be less pro-government when you talk about corruption or pollution, in honest and genuine terms. However, it's obvious none of you genuinely cares about such things. You just want to rant. People like you would probably be happier if the Chinese government gets worse and worse, along with the rest of the country. It's also great you label me with a "secret-police-online rat". You can't rebuff my comments so you try to discredit me as a communist agent. Charmed I'm sure.
| YUo say bla bla bla and bla. Nothing important for me. İ will ask you 1 question. Why these pyramids not open the public? |
Of course it's not important to you, as it disagrees with your consipracy theories and you can't rebuff it. Thus you could only keep your conspiracy theory by making my argument "not important".
| Why these pyramids not open the public? |
I'll give you three possibilities. 1) One is that there really is a white pyramid conspiracy or whatnot. 2) They probably are open to the public but as always people like to make thing up (Now I will ask you 1 question. How do you know these pyramids are not
the Maoling Mausoleum or other whatnot, which are open to the public?). 3) (most likely scenario) is that hardly anyone cares b/c the pyramids of Giza outshines everything else in public eyes. Theoretically they are open to the public but they are not tourist attractions. And I quote
"In the meantime, if you happen to be in China and want to see
something very few people know about, head to Xi'an. Don't just head to the
impressive Maoling Mausoleum. Head out into the countryside and look
for strange pyramid like shapes. You will find them. They've been
there for thousands of years, right under our noses.
© 2008 Dave Combattelli" Now why isn't Mr. Dave Combatteli sacked by the oh-so-notorious commie thought police?
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Posted: 08-Oct-2009 at 07:57 |
Originally posted by Omnipotence
| ^ Just I thought, why you Chinese mainlands are always Pro-Chinese
govt, I'm smelling Chinese secret online police rat here. You guys
never admits China's fault but always blames on others. |
Maybe we're pro-Chinese government b/c whenever you accuse the Chinese government, you put things such as "pyramid conspiracies" or "thought police" in the situation. How do you expect Chinese people to EVER take you people seriously? Perhaps Chinese people will be less pro-government when you talk about corruption or pollution, in honest and genuine terms. However, it's obvious none of you genuinely cares about such things. You just want to rant. People like you would probably be happier if the Chinese government gets worse and worse, along with the rest of the country.
It's also great you label me with a "secret-police-online rat". You can't rebuff my comments so you try to discredit me as a communist agent. Charmed I'm sure.
| YUo say bla bla bla and bla. Nothing important for me. İ will ask you 1 question. Why these pyramids not open the public? |
Of course it's not important to you, as it disagrees with your consipracy theories and you can't rebuff it. Thus you could only keep your conspiracy theory by making my argument "not important".
| Why these pyramids not open the public? |
I'll give you three possibilities. 1) One is that there really is a white pyramid conspiracy or whatnot. 2) They probably are open to the public but as always people like to make thing up (Now I will ask you 1 question. How do you know these pyramids are not
the Maoling Mausoleum or other whatnot, which are open to the public?).
3) (most likely scenario) is that hardly anyone cares b/c the pyramids of Giza outshines everything else in public eyes. Theoretically they are open to the public but they are not tourist attractions. And I quote
"In the meantime, if you happen to be in China and want to see
something very few people know about, head to Xi'an. Don't just head to the
impressive Maoling Mausoleum. Head out into the countryside and look
for strange pyramid like shapes. You will find them. They've been
there for thousands of years, right under our noses.
© 2008 Dave Combattelli" Now why isn't Mr. Dave Combatteli sacked by the oh-so-notorious commie thought police?
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İf its open the puclic why we have very litte knowladge of them? İts open the scholars but scholars dont care about pyramids in chiana huh. İts ridiciolus. And china isnt a democracy. İts police state. Your words cannot chance that.
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Posted: 08-Oct-2009 at 09:27 |
I'm not going to repeat myself so you just look at answer number 3 on my previous post. Btw, you haven't answered by question. I find it unfair b/c I answered yours. Why isn't Mr. Dave arrested by the thought police? Or is he also a "secret police online rat" like me? (it's funny I'm being accused as a communist agent simply b/c I challenged Pyramid Conspiracy Theories. I doubt even the dystopian view of China you have would include a government this paranoid).
| And china isnt a democracy. İts police state. Your words cannot chance that. |
China may not be a democracy, but that doesn't go hand in hand with the "Secret Society of the White Pyramid". Government type and Conspiracy theories has nothing to do with each other. Don't get me wrong, I really wish there were a secret white pyramid society that attempts to hide the secret of immortality from the rest of the world. But that's next to believing in Santa Clause. But since you're already willing to believe all this, why don't u just go on to say the commies killed Santa and in an attempt to ruin Christmas?
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Posted: 08-Oct-2009 at 16:32 |
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Dear Omn..!
You wrote; "3) (most likely scenario) is that hardly anyone cares b/c the pyramids of Giza outshines everything else in public eyes. Theoretically they are open to the public but they are not tourist attractions."
With respect, I don't believe even you believe that? Hundreds of thousands of travellers seem to flock to the restored "Great Wall(s)" but if you ask a guide to take you to the pyramids, you are usually met with wide eyed shock! I have read a lot about the efforts anyone has to do just to drive by some of these pyramids, it seems there is some concerted govermental element trying to keep them from the eyes of us barbarians?
Why go to Egypt, to see maybe 35 or so pyramids when one can go to China and see literally hundreds!
No, I would suspect that whenever the dictators of China see money in displaying these artefacts, there would be a boom in travel to see them! Heck, most people do not even know they exist, and even those who read my post, seem unable to do any research concerning them either!
I have made numerous postings, but I have yet to find out that some other reader, actually took the time to do some inter-net searches on their own!
I cannot explain why, unless they are basically lazy?, or they are more interested in "political" problems rather than historical ones!
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Posted: 08-Oct-2009 at 22:05 |
Originally posted by İskit
Why these pyramids not open the public? |
Simple, China doesn't want to show to the world that they're lying. There are other pyramids right on the Ji'an. Koguryo pyramid tombs   Locations of Pyramids, Menhirs, Dolmens of Korea
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Posted: 08-Oct-2009 at 22:55 |
Originally posted by opuslola
Dear Omn..!
You wrote; "3) (most likely scenario) is that hardly anyone cares b/c the pyramids of Giza outshines everything else in public eyes. Theoretically they are open to the public but they are not tourist attractions."
With respect, I don't believe even you believe that? Hundreds of thousands of travellers seem to flock to the restored "Great Wall(s)" but if you ask a guide to take you to the pyramids, you are usually met with wide eyed shock! I have read a lot about the efforts anyone has to do just to drive by some of these pyramids, it seems there is some concerted govermental element trying to keep them from the eyes of us barbarians?
Why go to Egypt, to see maybe 35 or so pyramids when one can go to China and see literally hundreds!
No, I would suspect that whenever the dictators of China see money in displaying these artefacts, there would be a boom in travel to see them! Heck, most people do not even know they exist, and even those who read my post, seem unable to do any research concerning them either!
I have made numerous postings, but I have yet to find out that some other reader, actually took the time to do some inter-net searches on their own!
I cannot explain why, unless they are basically lazy?, or they are more interested in "political" problems rather than historical ones!
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İ totally accept this idea. China may not be a democracy, but that doesn't go hand in hand with
the "Secret Society of the White Pyramid". Government type and
Conspiracy theories has nothing to do with each other. Don't get me
wrong, I really wish there were a secret white pyramid society that
attempts to hide the secret of immortality from the rest of the world.
But that's next to believing in Santa Clause. But since you're already
willing to believe all this, why don't u just go on to say the commies
killed Santa and in an attempt to ruin Christmas? Time to time the life brings to
light a fact that contradicts the official theory. In Russia, the facts can be
disposed of by explaining them away, silencing them, ignoring them, or
destroying them. One example of explaining away is the attribution of a fact to
an import, like the nomadic animal art copied from the advanced
Iranian/Greek/Mediterranean settled population. The silencing is best done by
hiding it, like the Scythian artifacts hidden in the storage of Hermitage, to
hide the splendor and skill of the population preceding the Slavic migrants.
The inscriptions can be ignored, to retain the concept of the illiteracy of the
nomadic population, invariably repeated in every publication. And the
destruction continues on an industrial scale, some by design, some by shear
negligence. Cities and kurgans are being ploughed over, records and bones
destroyed, samples not analyzed, results not published, the hand written
records and collections of the pre-Soviet time archeological societies lost and
destroyed. Whatever are the means, the official theory remains unscathed. The
former USSR and now the Russian Academy of Sciences has a long history of never
acknowledging the evidence that contradicts the official stance. Historically,
it was not an enviable preposition for a Russian scientist: either silence, or
else.
Commies sometimes hide or destroy things like soviets do before.
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Posted: 09-Oct-2009 at 02:32 |
So in other words, you guys repeated your previous statements with nothing new to bring to the table. You ignored Mr. Dave's sources in which he himself had visited the tomb, and with the locals pointing it out for him to boot.
| "Why go to Egypt, to see maybe 35 or so pyramids when one can go to China and see literally hundreds!
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There are not "hundreds" of pyramids. The less popular ones you posted merely had the misfortune of being next to the Maoling Mauseulem, which is a much more impressive pyramid than those of its neighbors. As an analogy, people aren't going to see terra cotta warriors of the Han dynasty when they could see terra cotta warriors of the Qin dynasty. SO you guys say the government has hid the pyramids and arrested anyone who got close with the thought police, yes? Yet I bring primary evidence that there are people who went to these very pyramids and locals who know where the pyramids are. None have even seen a "thought police". What better evidence do you want? Or are you even reading my posts at all? Are you just seeing whether my post agrees or disagrees with your point of view and then proceed to go back to your rhetorics even though they have been disaproven? If so, why should I bother debating with you? It's wasting my time, as it seems everything I say goes in one ear and out the other. And none of you still have answered my question: Why is Mr. Dave and the locals not arrested by the thought police? btw, next time you're quoting me plz make it in quotes. Otherwise it makes it look like you wrote something that's actually intelligent and then proceeded to sprial, once again, into conspiracy theories of the White Pyramid. I must note that this isn't just any conspiracy theory. This is a conspiracy theory that YOU made up. Basically you used an old conspiracy theory about the secret of the White Pyramid Society, but added "thought police" and "evil commies" into the story. This makes it completely original. I'm impressed. And you ask why Chinese people defend their government? Well, it's the same reason that Texans say that most southerners aren't racist ranchers/herders. You're accusations of the government shifted from the realm of possibility to the realm of fantasy, literally fantasy. We're not talking about corruption here, we're talking about hiding the secret of immortality. Do you expect Chinese people (or anyone whose brain is worth a cent) to take this seriously? Who are you trying to fool here? It seems you're willing to believe anything as long as it makes the Chinese government look bad (did Chinese kids pick on you or what?). Here's some news, the Chinese government can look pretty bad if you start reporting about the truth of their mistakes. Reporting about wild fantasies doesn't make them look bad, it makes you look bad. Such wild accusations would only allow the government to hide their true atrocities, as people would be focuses on a bunch of nonexistent hocus pocus that the government never did. You're doing the corrupt officials a favor. I have a suspicious feeling that if I posted a story about the "secret order of the Red Triad", a government plan in which China would eventually take over the world fashion business and force all foreigners into wearing red hats, you would believe it too. Do me a favor. Next time you post, make sure it's intellectual. Don't make it another inane anti-communist rant stemming from illogical personal grudges.
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^ You are just repeating it as well. Why don't YOU bring something to us rather than just defending China's notorious historical thief.
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Really, may I ask what am I repeating? Because in that post I pointed out 1) how the Maoling Mausoleum is right next to all the other pyramids, successfully siphoning away all the tourists 2) The comment that this conspiracy theory was original in the fact that YOU PEOPLE made it up. It hasn't been talked of before 3) The comment that accusing the government on wild conspiracy theories would be actually doing them a favor as it takes attention away from things that they are actually committing. This destroys any possibility for improvement. 4) A request that "Next time you post, make sure it's intellectual. Don't make it another
inane anti-communist rant stemming from illogical personal grudges." But as according to the above post, you failed to do that, again.
None of the above was repeated. I did repeat a request for you to answer why Mr Dave wasn't arrested by the supposed "thought police". This was only because you repeatedly failed to answer it. Considering there's so many things I didn't repeat, I can only conclude that instead of reading my posts you prefer to see the world in black and white, there are those for you and there are those who are "secret police online rats" as you accused me of.
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Posted: 13-Oct-2009 at 09:49 |
Passionate debates are wel come, but its time to temper. A little less politics, a little more history in this topic would be nice too.
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