Gaulish Beltane & Galesh Baleno, Summer Festival

Edited by Cyrus Shahmiri - 26-Sep-2009 at 06:27

A comparison study of the Galesh language and Celtic languages would be very interesting. Hopefully, such a study can be done before the Galesh language is merged into Farsi.

Edited by Cryptic - 28-Sep-2009 at 09:03

You have made this a very interesting topic, and I would like to do some embelishment!

From;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golest%C4%81n_Province

"The major townships of the province are: Gorgan, Gonbad Kavoos, Bandar Torkaman, Bandar Gaz, Aliabad-e katul, Kord Kooy, Fenderesk and Minoo Dasht. Present-day Gorgan was called Esteraba or Astarabad until 1937." I feel that Esteraba, obviously has some connectio with Easter, and thus "East" or "Est" (Estonia for example) as does "Astar-abad", which is obviously merely a version of "Astare" / "Ashtoreth" / "Venus", IE, the Morning Star, or the East, etc.
Interestingly also is that this outpost of "red hair, and I suppose some green Eyes" is located upon the shores of the Caspain Sea, and it follows in almost a direct line East, from the area in Asia Minor that has been variously called Hatti, Galatia, and Phyriga, amongst others. Further research will reveal that areas with the same name, seem to either still exist or did exist in Armenia, Iraq?, Ubekestan, and Pakistan, etc. See;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulistan

"Gulistan or Golestan (Persian: گلستانِ; meaning "flower garden" or "rose garden")" This small fact is in itself interesting because it might well be later connected to other places which glorify the "flower" "fleur", etc. This may even be connected to the "Fleur di Lys", and even "Florence, Italy?" But, that is another topic entirely.

The above site also shows these other places which almost have to be directly or indirectly related;

"Places in Armenia and Azerbaijan
Gulistan, former name of Nor Aznaberd, Armenia
Gulistan, Nagorno-Karabakh, a village in the Shahumian region of Nagorno-Karabakh, Azerbaijan
Gülüstan, Nakhchivan, Azerbaijan
Places in Pakistan
Gulistan, Balochistan, located in Qilla Abdullah District, Balochistan, Pakistan
Gulistan, Punjab, village in Punjab, Pakistan
Gulistan-e-Jauhar (گلستانِ جوهر), neighbourhood of Karachi, Sindh, Pakistan
Other Places
Gulistan District in Farah Province, Afghanistan
Gulistan, Dhaka, in Dhaka, Bangladesh
Guliston, Uzbekistan"

Put all together and we have quite an empire, eh?

The following is a map of the district of Gulistan, in Pakistan;

http://www.aims.org.af/maps/district/farah/gulistan.pdf

Expanding the map also discloses that it is located North of a city that has the name "Nimroz", which is strangly similar to the ancient city name and personal name "Nimrod!" Amongst other interesting names found within the above map is the word "Ghalway!", does this sound familar?

See; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galway

"Galway (Irish: Gaillimh) is the fastest growing and is the fifth largest city in Ireland and the only city in the province of Connacht. The city is located on the west coast of Ireland. In Irish, Galway is also called Cathair na Gaillimhe (City of Galway).

The city takes its name from the Gaillimh river (River Corrib) that formed the western boundary of the earliest settlement, which was called Dún Bhun na Gaillimhe (meaning "fort at the foot of the Gaillimh"). The word Gaillimh means "stony" as in "stony river" (the mythical and alternative derivations are given in History of Galway). The city also bears the nickname City of the Tribes / Cathair na dTreabh because "fourteen tribes" (merchant families)[1] led the city in its Hiberno-Norman period."

Interesting is it not? "Gaillimh" meaning "stony" or "Stony river" etc. Certainly the Irish are today mostly considered as a "Celtic" group? Maybe a study of the "Hiberno-Norman period" is necessary?

See; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiberno-Norman

The above site needs to be read and studied in its entirety.
Here we see one really interesting fact, that is the use of the term "Hibernia" as the ancient Roman name for the area. The similarity of this name to that of "Hispania" or "Iberia" cannot be denied, maybe even "H'isberian" is possible? However, it is not commonly known but until sailing ships improved their ability to tack into the wind, a sailing quest to England from ports on the Spanish West coast or especially a fleet coming out of the Mediteranean Sea, literally had to follow the prevailing winds and eventually sail firstly to Ireland or the Islands to the N. West of Ireland and Scotland. You may not know it, but this is precisely the route supposedly sailed by the great Spanish Armada.

And, if you really want to become confused, consider that the Irish history of St. Patrick; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Patrick He reportedly began his conversion of the Irish from the North West coastal area! Vatican documents seem to verify that they had regular contact with the Irish Catholics from very early times,but other histories show us that the Catholicism of the Irish led to bloody conflict with the later arrival in England of Catholicism, that is they were, it seems, so different in beliefs that they actually fought each other! If the Irish were really in regular contact with Popes for hundreds of years before Catholicism from Western Europe started to make progress in England, then why were they so different in basic beliefs? Make what you want of that question.

But, back to the basics which I will present in a later post! Again please forgive my mistakes?

Regards,

Dear Cyrus,

Thanks for your kind words!

I have looked at your bibliography http://www.iranchamber.com/history/samanids/samanids.php
And read at least a few sites containing your name. I feel esteemed to be able to converse with you in person.

I would just like to ask you a somewhat personal question? What do you consider the origin of the name or title "Cyrus?"

Could you entertain the possibility that it is mostly a title and not really a name? IE, can you consider a linguistic relationship to the English / French? words "Sire", "Sirrah", "Lord", "protector", "all knowing", etc.?

Might it not be redundant to say "Cyrus King of Persia?" and not really translate the words "Lord of Persia?"

Regards,

I just wanted your opinion!

PS,in an earlier post the word "Rica" was mentioned, while some of you might not like such sites this one offers a very good view of the word or name Rica;

http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/0/Rica

Edited by opuslola - 30-Sep-2009 at 13:33

These fire festivals are common in a lot of parts of the world.

Cyrus usually speaks of migrating populations. So Saxons, Frisians and all the other are of Iranian descendance for him. But there is no evidence.

I myself didn't notice that the only people who have been mentioned by Herodotus thay they have all deep blue eyes, and bright red hair are Gelonis (Gelae by Strabo and Gaeli by Pliny), Flipper replied:

Originally posted by Flipper Thank you very much again Cyrus. Very interresting! I was unaware of the report of Herodotus. However, the blonde elements are probably not from Greece. Ancient Greeks had in majority dark brown hair. Kore means daughter, so yes it is a good observation again.

beorna, as I said Gilak people were not Celtic but a Scythian Greek people, according to Celtic mythology, they probably mixed with Celtic tribes when they migrated from their original land in the west of the Caspian sea to Ireland in the old times, so Gaels could be the same Gaeli people who were mentioned by Pliny in the first century, as a people who were called Cadusii by Greek -> http://www.masseiana.org/pliny.htm (Chapter XVIII) You can read the original text here: http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/L/Roman/Texts/Pliny_the_Elder/6*.html -> "Gaeli quos Graeci Cadusios"

if all belong to the same language family, eg indoeuropean, I have no problem, that they all shall have a common linguistic root, but that doesn't mean they have ever been one ethnos. There are the so-called Germanic tribe of the Teutons, some argue they were Celt but i don't think so. Germans call themselves Deutsch (sometimes spoken as Teutsch). It has the same root 'the people' but Teutons aren't German and Germans aren't Teutons.

Well, it is interesting, for sure. But your Iranian Menhirs are about 7000 years old, the french one at least 2000 years younger. I know no culture that last as long as these. Then there are different between the menhirs. the iranian have a sword or knife in the belt. I am not sure if they wear a helmet. The French menhirs don't have knifes and have no helmet. If I ask my son to paint a face I am sure it would look like those of the menhirs and he is neither a celt nor an Iranian. People moved along the shore of the Mediterranian sea, and they had influence of the culture, but that was long before Iranians existed and even your menhirs are older than the Iranian nations.