Homeland and origin of ancient Bulgarians

Originally posted by Kanas_Krumesis About the origin of the name "Atilla" dispute with some Hun-garian. I don`t think that Hungarians were Turk (and Hungarians themselves as I know). How many citizens of the modern Turkey have a name "Atilla"? In Hungary this name is one of the most common. BTW I never heard any Turk (in history) to have a name like this! May be Boris (ancient Bulgarian name) is also a Turkish?

atilla name using turkey; Atilla Taş, Atilla Olgac, etc.

The ancient bulgars was iranic . We today bulgarians like other ethnic groups and especially europeans( like french,english,irish,spanish) has formed from several ancient ethnic groups -tharcian,slavs and aicnent bulgars and yes we are partly sarmatian(iranic).

Originally posted by Altar ı ubderstand. thanks for the info. this finally made me understand why do bulgarians have black hair brown eyes like arians (iranian, armenian etc etc) etc. the turkish remain there have green eyes in some villages i recognised the difference.

Edited by Cyrus Shahmiri - 09-Jan-2011 at 14:20

First I want to excuse me for my typos! I have seen buildings from iran (an very ancient buildings) and i can't say that the Bulgars were a nomadic preoples! When whey strart from somewhere in midle Asia and pass thru the terytories of today's Caucasus they left a huge buildings,houses and maybe a palace. I want to say that too maybe the Asparuh's bulgarians weren't believing in Tangra (Tengry).There is evedences thet the have been christians. For a common origin whith the turks-we have't nothing common with them!

Indeed, it is hard to argue against the Persian origin of the ancient Bulgarians.  Here is why:

Appearance:  It is well-known that the so-called "Tatars" living in Russia today, are in fact descendants of the ancient Bulgarians.  They do not look Turkic or Asian.  They look Caucasian, like Iranians.  I have spoken with many tatars living in Kazakhstan, Kyrgizstan, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan.  The overwhelming majority of them told me that their family memory (coming from their grand parents and great grand parents) is clear that they are Bulgarians.  Tatar BTW, is a name that the Russians gave all those people who were not slavic.  And FYI, the word Russian has Persian origin too ( From "Rus" in Persian) which means SAVAGE. 

Names:  In Tajikistan some people have names and family names that are identical with those of ancient Bulgarians.  For instance, Okil (known to be the name of one of the famos bulgarian clans) is a well-known family name in Tajikistan (One of their prime ministers had that name, he was Okil Okilov).  There are other names such as Kubrat etc that are still present.  Unfortunately, islam and later russification has done much to delete or obscure the traces of Bulgarian presence throughout the land of Central Asia. 

Music: The music of the people in Pamir definitely carries many of the rhythms that are so well known on the Balkans.  An expert has to analyze the music and discuss the similarities.  I can imagine that music could be a bit like the genetic code of a human.