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Cyrus Shahmiri
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Topic: Who contributed more to Mathematics? Posted: 23-Aug-2009 at 13:07 |
I found these names here: http://www.ebookee.com/A-History-of-Mathematics-From-Mesopotamia-to-Modernity_70164.html I am watching an Iranian TV serial about Jamshid Kashani (al-Kashi), I didn't know him but he seems to be one of the greatest mathematicians in the world, he is called the true inventor of the calculator, the inventor of decimal fractions, he calculated pi to 14 decimal places (3.14159265358979) from just 3 correct decimal places, ...
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Posted: 23-Aug-2009 at 14:04 |
You left out a very important name. Ida Mae Bernkoff. It was Ida who, upon recognizing I had no math apptitude whatsoever, made a deal with me. She would give me a C grade for the first 2 semesters, if I pulled out of advanced math, thus advancing the future of math considerably.
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Posted: 23-Aug-2009 at 14:29 |
can names be added to the list? Biruni and Khayyam are missing !!!!
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Posted: 23-Aug-2009 at 14:47 |
I would go for Newton / Leibnitz from this list. Both discovered calculus, but Newton had a far better publicity machine. In my opinion, the greatest mathematician that ever lived was Karl Gauss or perhaps some of the 17th-18th French Mathematicians.
As side note, the Indian Srinivasa Ramanujan was said to have incredible potential. Unfortunatly, he died young (during WWI) of health issues possibly complicated by mental illness. His full potential was never shown.
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Posted: 24-Aug-2009 at 04:02 |
Originally posted by Kamran the Great
can names be added to the list? Biruni and Khayyam are missing !!!! |
There are several other ones like Nasir al-Din Tusi in Trigonometry or Sharaf al-Din Tusi in Algebraic Geometry but al-Kashi and al-Khwarizmi, the founder of Algebra and Algorithm, are the greatest Persian mathematicians.
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Posted: 30-Sep-2009 at 11:10 |
There's so many mathematicians absent here: Riemann, Gauss or Nother. It depends in which area we focus, the Modern Number Theory will not exist without Gauss contributions. The same happens in Differential Geometry with Riemann or in Abstract Algebra without Emmy Nother
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Posted: 30-Sep-2009 at 13:18 |
al-Khwarizmi isnt persian. He is ozbek Turk.
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Posted: 30-Sep-2009 at 15:26 |
For sure there is no Maths without the degit (0), so that means there is no Maths without al-Khwarizmi, my vote to the great man of history whose intentions were great and of which the world has developed the now so called Computers (imagin a computer without 0, that would be a hard guess).
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Posted: 30-Sep-2009 at 16:25 |
Study this brief wiki page 0(number) , for the background and origin of the spacer , the point and the zero in maths . It seems that it just sort of grew over the centuries
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Posted: 30-Sep-2009 at 16:45 |
Dear Spey, what I was refering to is:
"In the twelfth century, one of his major works (Book on Addition and Subtraction after the Method of the Indians) was translated into Latin, bringing the positional number system and the number 'zero' to the Western world (Seife, 2000). " Reference: History of Algebra
You see the western world used to have the Latin digit system of (i. ii. iii. iv. v. vi. vii. viii. ix. x. xi. xii. xiii. xiv. xv ...) where they knew nothing about zero. So it was Al Khwarazmi's work that introduced it to the western world.
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Posted: 30-Sep-2009 at 17:00 |
Originally posted by Gharanai
Dear Spey, what I was refering to is:
"In the twelfth century, one of his major works (Book on Addition and Subtraction after the Method of the Indians) was translated into Latin, bringing the positional number system and the number 'zero' to the Western world (Seife, 2000). " Reference: History of Algebra
You see the western world used to have the Latin digit system of (i. ii. iii. iv. v. vi. vii. viii. ix. x. xi. xii. xiii. xiv. xv ...) where they knew nothing about zero. So it was Al Khwarazmi's work that introduced it to the western world.
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And that has what to do with me ?
Where have I mentioned Al Khwarazmi ?
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Posted: 01-Oct-2009 at 10:13 |
How about John von Neumann, the founder of modern computer science; and game theory, which is applicable to virtually every scientific deciplines from economics, political science, biology, psychology, quantom physics to even military strategy.
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Posted: 01-Oct-2009 at 18:20 |
Originally posted by Siege Tower
How about John von Neumann, the founder of modern computer science; and game theory, which is applicable to virtually every scientific deciplines from economics, political science, biology, psychology, quantom physics to even military strategy. |
Though I lack the technical knowledge to defend my opinion well, I think that game theory is way over rated. Most systems are too complex and too chaotic to be "game theoried".
For example, the two ivy league math professors who "game theoried" stock market options did very well..... for about four years and then chaos took over. They then went bankrupt fast. In other applications, emotional humans may constantly change their understanding of the "game" and their goals and thus throw off any game theory applications.
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Posted: 02-Oct-2009 at 07:20 |
I was thinking of Pythagoras, but his contribution was mostly in geometry.
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Posted: 02-Oct-2009 at 12:49 |
I think we just don't know the names of Babylonian mathematicians, they were certainly among the greatest ones.
A math problem assigned to Babylonian kids about 4,000 years ago:
Here's the problem:
Suppose you have two equilateral triangles, one inside the other. Can you figure out the area of the space between the two triangles? Here's a hint: see how you can divide the area into three trapezoids?
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Posted: 03-Oct-2009 at 18:22 |
I did not vote in the above test! But for those of you who did, I would like to entertain the thought that the winner, is by p;roxy if nothing else, ordained to win! It is more like a question, "if you could die for Christ, or Moses, or Allah, just whom would you most likely vote for?
IE, a fixed question with a fixed response, expected!
Can any one of you deny it?
Please see; "Few details of al-Khwārizmī's life are known with certainty, even his birthplace is unsure. His name may indicate that he came from Khwarezm (Khiva), then in Greater Khorasan, which occupied the eastern part of the Persian Empire, now Xorazm Province in Uzbekistan. Abu Rayhan Biruni calls the people of Khwarizm "a branch of the Persian tree".[10]", the above is from Wikipedia!
Thus the winner of the test question can only be correct if he or she does not ever look at the possibility that this person "never existed", or at least that this person never wrote within the period where he is now expected to reside! This is called "revisionism!"
Thus, just what reliability can be established for the above "winner?"
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Posted: 26-May-2010 at 20:24 |
looking to the results of "popular vote", one don't need an astrologer to tell him that middle easterners are majority here!
Hilbert, Leibnitz and Newton as insignificant people, that's very new as a trend in history of math., isn't it?
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Posted: 26-May-2010 at 23:06 |
looking to the results of "popular vote", one don't need an astrologer to tell him that middle easterners are majority here! |
The only middle easterner in the list is al-Kashi who has no vote.
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Posted: 27-May-2010 at 00:40 |
so we have to admit that westerners really don't know about such guys bigggggg in maths like leibnitz, newton or hilbert? And by the way, by which mean established yout the ethnicity/religion of those writing here? (or your conclusion is based only on the country of origin????)
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Posted: 27-May-2010 at 01:43 |
so we have to admit that westerners really don't know about such guys bigggggg in maths like leibnitz, newton or hilbert? |
They certainly know but they have to learn algebra at school!
And by the way, by which mean established yout the ethnicity/religion of those writing here? (or your conclusion is based only on the country of origin????) |
I don't know what you mean, for example I think Leibniz was a German mathematician (from Leipzig in Germany), however he wrote primarily in Latin and French, don't you think so?
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