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Sino-Japanese relations through history.

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    Posted: 07-Dec-2006 at 10:37
I would have to agree...every country has some type of excessive jingoism. By no means is China a rude exception. It is a fact of human nature to be proud of their nationality, but taking it to the level in which one is putting down other countries is taking it too far.
 
The theme of bad relations between Japan, Korea, and China are still apparent today, unfortunately...all of these nations fascinate me. The discussion that was going before, in August (long time ago!) I find rather intriguing. I too would have thought it would have occured after the Meiji Restoration, but this is an interesting argument.
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The change in Japanese attitude after Mongol invasion was not condescension towards Chinese per se, but the realization that out of that continent could come not only cultural enlightenment (like the Tang period and Song period) but also mortal threat.  Mongol occupation of southern China was relatively short, so it did not damage Japanese perception of China all that much.  Japan was always more closely linked to southern China than northern China.  In any case, Japan was mired in couple hundreds years of civil war of unification after the Mongols, similar to China prior to 221BC.  In fact, Japanese calls the period "Sengoku Jidai," exactly the same kanji for the Chinese Warring State period prior to 221BC.  Of course, instead of bronze age weapons, Japanese were fighting with firearms in their Warring State Period one and a half millinia later. 
 
The Manchu conquest of China however became entirely different.  For two reasons:
 
(1) Chinese seem to have made long-term peace with their Manchu overlords;
 
(2) Tokugawa Bakufu was established in Japan not long after Manchu conquest of China.  The newly centralized Japanese government pursued closed door policy and actively promoted its own cultural superiority over China, theorizing that the contemporary China was no longer run by the Chinese blood of the classical period . . . and that Japan was the true inheritor of Chinese civilization.   The term "slaves from a dead state" (wang guo nu) came to describe Chinese under Manchu rule.

The Chinese brought it upon themselves with their Confucian worldview. An idea of harmony and peace which ironically led to war.
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