Iran and Israel!?!?!?!

I'm talkin about the possible airstrike the Israeli's are threatening the Iranians with. Waht do you gouys think will happen?

Let's talk of a real. Crisis: the Taliban in Pakistan in the face of an indifferent Pakistani regime. Echoes of Iran 1978 except pakistan has nukes... There's a real crisis.

Originally posted by Zagros Isrdael has been threatening airstrikes in one way or another for 5 years at least. According to israel Iran would have been nuclear armed by2006. What you see here at work is a very well oiled propaganda machine which seeks to sensationalize western countries to attempt what Israel could never hope to achieve.

Second that.

yea, I don't have many good things to say for their president. I don't believe he represents Iran's intentions as a whole, Iran would even be tough for the U.S. to attack being that there would be a strong insurgency and it is somewhat mountainous. Not to sound Elitist but what is with that old man's jacket he wears all the time, at least wear a decent to suit to look a little professional; I mean he represents Iran on the world stage.

oh Yea I knew that I was just talking about their figurehead, and the Ayatollah would probably not want to talk with the U.S. anyway.

His attire is a part of his facade. A common man for the common people. What Iran has is more like a common idiot. As far as his powers go: funny how he is painted as the be all and end all of Iranian politics and policy ad nauseam by mass media propaganda machine in the west when all they ranted and raved about was the hollowness of his ostensibly well intentioned predecessor because he lacked any meaningful power and whom answered to the same ayatollah. Why I wonder is that?

Edited by Zagros - 29-Apr-2009 at 17:44

Originally posted by Sun Tzu what do you mean by a clip around the ears, and a just settlement? I would think the Ayatollah would want the complete destruction of Israel and all the Holy land for the Arabs, unless I am wrong.

Clip around the ears i mean,  put US support on ice until Israel changes its bellicose behavoiur. The Gaza war needed some real criticism from Washington not protection in the secuirty council.

As for Iran they want an end to Zionism, not the jewish presence in the holyland - which is what is intrepeted in the west. Isreal is a jewish state first, which is exclusive to the non jeiwsh locals while expanding jewish settlements at the cost of local property rights, thats the rub for most in the ME. Most would be happy with Isreal staying behind its old borders.

Well they wouldn't want it for the Israelis lol. And I wasn't talking about the Iranian people, I don't beleive they hate us (at least most of them) even thought sometimes even I hate my government. I guess it's just their so-called leader Ahmadenajhad who misrepresents them.

As for the Israelis enroaching on neighbors borders has really pissed me off. Especially a story I heard on 60 minutes where Israeli troops were using a Palestinian house for their own pleasure. The homeowners were under the pretense that they were going to use it for one night base to search the neighborhood and watch the town (as the house was on a hill). anyways they tried interviewing the soldiers aking why they were there and they wouldn't even answer the door. Aren't there laws on how troops are quartered in areas like Palestine?? It just really bothered me.

I just find it a little hypocritical that people are so strongly criticising Ahmadinejad, who don't get me wrong is racist and troublesom, when people seem content to often ignore the current Israeli administration. Not too long ago the Israeli foreign minister said something to the effect that Palestinians would need to acknowledge Israel as a strictly and wholely Jewish state if there was to be peace.

Regarding Israel attempting to gather support against Iran, I believe they are faiing in this regard. While people are generally opposed to Iran's position, people are not in any way allying themselves with Israel. Even the United States is taking a step backward. All I can say is that it's about time and hopefully some international law can start to be enforced in the region, against both parties involved.

Originally posted by Zagros I wonder what the propaganda machine is conjuring up to peddle aggression against Iran when Ahmadinejad's out of the picture soon - they won't have much material to work with.

  It wont stop with that little turd being replaced with another, even if they bring in someone more polished and smart like Rafsanjani. The western media will pick on something else, the republican guard or the mullahs themselves. Minorities, democracy, people being hanged etc etc. It all gets wheeled out. When turkey said no to the US over Iraq, all of a sudden the kurdish rights became an issue in the western media, no one is safe from such games.

 If washington doenst want to confront Iran, which i think is it is now shifting to, the media will tone it down as well. im not as worried about the US as i once was.