Gotvandi (Dezfuli), Guti and Gothic

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=heal&searchmode=none

This is very interesting to read this book: Hittite Etymological Dictionary: Words beginning with H

Edited by Cyrus Shahmiri - 28-May-2009 at 07:58

Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri The fact is that, unlike numerous Eurocentric sources, these are rare non-biased European sources, the authors are themselves European scholars, what can be the reason of their bias? They just can't hide the facts when they find numerous evidences (genetic, archaeological, linguistic, ...), for example when they see hala is "The Kassite goddess of healing": http://www.pantheon.org/articles/h/hala.html and compare it with a same Gothic word which means "heal/healing", Old English hal, Old Frisian hela, Old Norse heila, ... and know there are different cognate words in other Indo-European languages, what can be the conclusion of them?

I think this is not even worth a proper response. Don't you think it's time to read some linguistics, Cyrus?? Or else, don't read it, but don't use it, comment it, anything.

There most certainly are reliable sources, just because I don't think most of your sources are reliable doesn't mean that I don't believe there are reliable sources.  Reliable sources are well documented, don't show a specific bias, and are well argued.  Most of the sources you have provided here are not well sourced/documented, do show a specific bias, and for the most part are not very well argued.

Edited by King John - 27-May-2009 at 19:28

Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri King John, we know almost nothing about Cassi, the similarity between this name and Kassite can be a clue, of course it has been mentioned by those who research about the ancient Britain, for example look at this book: http://books.google.com/books?id=QnDtohOe8-QC   The British Chronicles By David Hughes Edition: illustrated Published by Heritage Books, 2007 ISBN 0788444905, 9780788444906 662 pages   and this page:

If we just "know Cassi were a people in the Northern Europe and nothing more is known about them, how can this excerpt have any merit?  I'm not saying Hughes is wrong but what I am saying is that his claim that the Cassi are actually the Kassites is merely conjecture.

Edited by King John - 27-May-2009 at 15:51

Answer the question, Cyrus.  How does it (the Wiki stub) show any connection between Cassi and Kassi?  Also answer the other question with which I finish my above post.  I shall reiterate this question: Are there any historians, archaeologists, or anthropologists that argue for a connection between the Kassi and the Cassi?  Don't dodge the questions I have asked, I know you like doing this but please extend to me the same courtesy I have extended to you.  I have answered your questions when asked and you rarely if ever answer my questions.  

Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri As you read in the wiki we just know Cassi were a people in the Northern Europe and nothing more is known about them, so it is not clear they were Celtic, Germanic or Iranian, please believe it is wrong to say "everyone in the ancient Britain is a Celt!"

Who said this?  I did not ever imply that all the inhabitants of ancient Britain were Celts, I mere stated that the wiki stub you cited has no comment about the relationship between Cassi and Kassi.  

Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri It is good to mention that the actual name of Kassite in the Mesopotamian inscriptions is Kassi and one of the oldest known tribes of northern Europe is Cassi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassi

How does this wiki stub show any connection between Kassi and Cassi?  This is what it says in its entirety:

Originally posted by Wikipedia Cassi From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia For other uses, see Cassi (disambiguation). The Cassi are one of five tribes encountered by Julius Caesar during his second expedition to Britain in 55 BC when he crossed the Thames at Kew,[1] and who became became his allies after the Trinovantes joined him. The archaeologists Graham Webster and Barry Cunliffe both agree that nothing more is known about them,[2][3] but it has been suggested that between Caesar's second invasion and the invasion of Claudius in AD 43 that the Cassi along with other tribes such as the Ancalites and Bibroci merged to form the Catuvellauni, and thatCassivellaunus may have been a member of the Cassi tribe.[4][5] [edit]References ^ Julius Caesar, Commentarii de Bello Gallico 5.21 ^ Cunliffe, Barry W. (2005). Iron Age Communities in Britain: An Account of England, Scotland and Wales from the Seventh Century BC until the Roman Conquest. Routledge. p. 139. ISBN 978-0415347792. ^ Webster, Graham (2000). Boudica: The British Revolt Against Rome AD 60. Routledge. p. 32. ISBN 978-0415226066. ^ Williamson, Tom (2000). The Origins of Hertfordshire. Manchester University Press. pp. 43–44. ISBN 978-0719044915. ^ Dyer, James (2002). Ancient Britain. Routledge. p. 168. ISBN 978-0415151511.

Again how does this show any connection?  Are there any historians, archaeologists, or anthropologists that argue for a connection between the Kassi and the Cassi?

It is good to mention that the actual name of Kassite in the Mesopotamian inscriptions is Kassi and one of the oldest known tribes of northern Europe is Cassi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassi

Originally posted by Slayertplsko Greeks migrated to Persia and were responsible for the emergence of Persian culture. It seems formal logic is not part of Iranian school system. You haven't proved my statement correct, you have proved the statement Greeks migrated to Persia correct, but not the statement Greeks migrated to Persia and were responsible for the emergence of Persian culture. My statement is a conjunction and a conjunction can be true only if both of its operands are true. If only one (or none) of them is true, the conjunction is false.

King John, you say Waddell's book is just old, however you could never confute his evidences, what about my other sources and evidences? For example what I said in the first page about Kassites, the certain ancestors of Lurs who created the Luristan bronzes in Luristan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kassites 

Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri Originally posted by King John Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri Just search for Maps of Lur: http://mapsof.net/Lur/ as you see there are just three places in Iran and two places in Sweden with the exact name of Lur in the world, do you know why? Because there is a finite combination of letters in the Indo-European languages. Not all Indo-European languages, but some of them, as I said in the first page of this thread (about Middle Persian Lap "lip"), there was no "L" sound neither in Avestan nor in Old Persian language.

How does this show that there is not a finite combination of letters in the Indo-European Languages?  Lack of a sound doesn't mean that there are infinite combinations of letters.  Are you ever going to reply to my earlier posts like the long one on page 4 where I discuss Waddell as a source?