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Topic: Yakub: the scientist that created the white man Posted: 06-Feb-2014 at 11:40 |
Jimbosay, go straighten your bowtie and get your dark blue suit cleaned. The Nation Of Islam's racist BS won't fly here.
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"Arguing with someone who hates you or your ideas, is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what move you make, your opponent will walk all over the board and scramble the pieces".
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Posted: 06-Feb-2014 at 11:18 |
Originally posted by Jimbosay
Read the link I posted and stop wasting my time, I will be back with more links that expose the fraud that is so-called WHITE HISTORY AND ANTHROPOLOGY. |
No, you won't. Your suspended. Your not here to discuss, your trolling. You come here spouting racist nonsense without so much as a tiny effort to back it up. "White History", bub, this isn't stormfront. But you come in here acting like it is.
You make the assumption that we are all "White". Your assumption is wrong. I suggest you go read anything by Ivan Van Sertima.
In the meantime you can go find some forum that will tolerate your vitriol.
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"Arguing with someone who hates you or your ideas, is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what move you make, your opponent will walk all over the board and scramble the pieces".
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Posted: 06-Feb-2014 at 04:17 |
Originally posted by Jimbosay
There is an absolute abundance of evidence that most of White history is simply pathological lying. if the history itself is not being proved as pure fabrication the very people who write that history and anthropology are being exposed as complete frauds.
And nobody is scared of anyone you hold up as a hero nor would I want him not to be here. He sounds like a fraud and presents no evidence for anything he claims.
But here is something for you to mull over. The foremost authority on the Neanderthal has been exposed as a complete fraudster. I have millions of other articles like this that proves most Germanic history is little more than a mishmash of complete nonsense;
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2005/feb/19/science.sciencenews
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No more recent articles? BTW, who discovered him to be a fraud? Weren't it white men who did so? Protsch is not only a fraud but as well a criminal. The court which sentenced him, even attested him mental problems. all scientific works and research by him are obsolete today. To call people liars, just because they are white is racist.
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Posted: 06-Feb-2014 at 03:37 |
Read the link I posted and stop wasting my time, I will be back with more links that expose the fraud that is so-called WHITE HISTORY AND ANTHROPOLOGY.
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Posted: 06-Feb-2014 at 03:36 |
Why are you sending me private messages? post whatever you have to say to me on here and I already told you everything you are asking.
Don't waste my time with your pathetic and pitiful White supremacist angst.
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Posted: 06-Feb-2014 at 01:59 |
Originally posted by Jimbosay
There is an absolute abundance of evidence that most of White history is simply pathological lying. if the history itself is not being proved as pure fabrication the very people who write that history and anthropology are being exposed as complete frauds.
Who and when?
And nobody is scared of anyone you hold up as a hero nor would I want him not to be here. He sounds like a fraud and presents no evidence for anything he claims.
Who held up someone as a hero?
But here is something for you to mull over. The foremost authority on the Neanderthal has been exposed as a complete fraudster.
Who was the foremost authority?
How was he exposed as a complete fraudster?
I have millions of other articles like this that proves most Germanic history is little more than a mishmash of complete nonsense;
"Millions of other articles, surely you jest?
And, btw, I think you've received too much attention already. I'm going to ignore you in future!
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Posted: 06-Feb-2014 at 01:49 |
Originally posted by Jimbosay
There is an absolute abundance of evidence that most of White history is simply pathological lying. if the history itself is not being proved as pure fabrication the very people who write that history and anthropology are being exposed as complete frauds.
And nobody is scared of anyone you hold up as a hero nor would I want him not to be here. He sounds like a fraud and presents no evidence for anything he claims.
But here is something for you to mull over. The foremost authority on the Neanderthal has been exposed as a complete fraudster. I have millions of other articles like this that proves most Germanic history is little more than a mishmash of complete nonsense;
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2005/feb/19/science.sciencenews
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Mate, your post is coming very close to trolling, imho.
As you've been asked by TADR, please show us some evidence of your claims, which, btw, are outrageous.
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Posted: 05-Feb-2014 at 21:16 |
Originally posted by Jimbosay
There is an absolute abundance of evidence that most of White history is simply pathological lying. if the history itself is not being proved as pure fabrication the very people who write that history and anthropology are being exposed as complete frauds.
And nobody is scared of anyone you hold up as a hero nor would I want him not to be here. He sounds like a fraud and presents no evidence for anything he claims.
But here is something for you to mull over. The foremost authority on the Neanderthal has been exposed as a complete fraudster. I have millions of other articles like this that proves most Germanic history is little more than a mishmash of complete nonsense;
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2005/feb/19/science.sciencenews
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Jimbosay, then surely you have an obligation to us all to show us your proof that, what was it you said, "most of White history is simply pathological lying". We look forward to the thread you so obviously need to open to discuss these disturbing revelations. I look forward to your input.
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What a handsome figure of a dragon. No wonder I fall madly in love with the Alani Dragon now, the avatar, it's a gorgeous dragon picture.
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Posted: 05-Feb-2014 at 20:44 |
There is an absolute abundance of evidence that most of White history is simply pathological lying. if the history itself is not being proved as pure fabrication the very people who write that history and anthropology are being exposed as complete frauds.
And nobody is scared of anyone you hold up as a hero nor would I want him not to be here. He sounds like a fraud and presents no evidence for anything he claims.
But here is something for you to mull over. The foremost authority on the Neanderthal has been exposed as a complete fraudster. I have millions of other articles like this that proves most Germanic history is little more than a mishmash of complete nonsense;
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2005/feb/19/science.sciencenews
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Posted: 05-Feb-2014 at 20:03 |
Originally posted by Jimbosay
I think you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and I do not know who has commissioned or payed you to be here. Black historians absolutely do not turn any history black if not can be proven White. In fact most so-called White history is already a heap of exaggerations and lies.
Nearly everything in Black history has been proven with physical and anthropological evidence not so with any so-called White history. Their history as per revised by them is simply what has always been taught in schools unchallenged. But all I have to point out is the various so-called expert White European historians who have been exposed as frauds, men like Carlton Coon or Professor Reiner Protsch von Zieten.
But like I said I feel you have an agenda here you are not here to tell the truth but spread new and cover up old lies of the establishment.
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Mate, you definitely march to the beat of a different drum.
You can't make unsubstantiated claims such as "most of white history is already a heap of exaggeration and lies". IF, as you claim people of the dark skin variety can lay claim to great historical achievements, please quote your sources, or as Red Clay has politely pointed out, you won't get much joy here.
And, btw, Opuslola has not been paid to be here, quite the contrary, sometimes there are those who would pay him NOT to be here, but that's our Ron.
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Posted: 05-Feb-2014 at 11:58 |
Redclay, this undoubtedly the perfect place for your favorite expression, to wit;
"Arguing with someone who hates you or your ideas, is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what move you make, your opponent will walk all over the board and scramble the pieces".
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BTW, can you restore the examples that now contain nothing but an "x"?
Ron
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Posted: 04-Feb-2014 at 10:45 |
Originally posted by Jimbosay
I think you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and I do not know who has commissioned or payed you to be here. Black historians absolutely do not turn any history black if not can be proven White. In fact most so-called White history is already a heap of exaggerations and lies.
Nearly everything in Black history has been proven with physical and anthropological evidence not so with any so-called White history. Their history as per revised by them is simply what has always been taught in schools unchallenged. But all I have to point out is the various so-called expert White European historians who have been exposed as frauds, men like Carlton Coon or Professor Reiner Protsch von Zieten.
But like I said I feel you have an agenda here you are not here to tell the truth but spread new and cover up old lies of the establishment.
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The post you are caterwalling about was put up years back by someone who is no longer active. No one is being paid, no agenda is being pushed, except for yours.
History is history. It isn't "white" or "Black".
Your assertion that "all white history is a heap" puts you into the catagory of Afro Centrist, and an angry one at that. With that attitude you won't get much attention.
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"Arguing with someone who hates you or your ideas, is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what move you make, your opponent will walk all over the board and scramble the pieces".
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Posted: 04-Feb-2014 at 04:00 |
I don't like anyone, black or white, who claims historic credit for advancements, inventions or victories to which their race (and I use that term with caution) are not entitled.
Unfortunately, we see from time to time examples of nationalistic claims for unworthy credit, and I don't agree with them either.
I find it all rather distateful
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I think you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and I do not know who has commissioned or payed you to be here. Black historians absolutely do not turn any history black if not can be proven White. In fact most so-called White history is already a heap of exaggerations and lies.
Nearly everything in Black history has been proven with physical and anthropological evidence not so with any so-called White history. Their history as per revised by them is simply what has always been taught in schools unchallenged. But all I have to point out is the various so-called expert White European historians who have been exposed as frauds, men like Carlton Coon or Professor Reiner Protsch von Zieten.
But like I said I feel you have an agenda here you are not here to tell the truth but spread new and cover up old lies of the establishment.
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I can only say that the best words on this thread were these;
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There is a surprising amount of scholarly tolerance for Black supremacist psuedo-history.
I work on a daily basis with a Black African scholar who's in the field of Black European studies. Occasionally assisting him, I've come into contact with some of the literature and while many of these books are critically acclaimed and written by moderate historians of Black history, they still operate with a number of misunderstandings, exaggerations and oversimplifications that I suspect they are only able to get away with unmolested because most scholars avoid the quagmire of complications they risk by exposing them.
Typical is the definition of everything non-European as Black, for apparently everyone turns Negroid the moment you cross the Bosphorus or the Ural mountains. Also typical are gross exaggerations of "the Black achievement", if you will, by either redefining non-Negroid populations as Black or exaggerating the impact of Sub-Saharan Africans outside of their region. Opposing views tend to be undermined not by deconstruction of the arguments, but by associating them with racism and imperialism."
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Posted: 19-Mar-2009 at 13:07 |
Originally posted by Constantine XI
Thanks for the genes, Jack, they work great
Yes the fantastical wishful thinking of NOI's early thinkers certainly resulted in a lot of nonesense. I wonder if clerics in the mainstream Islamic world have gone to the effort of disowning/refuting this group out of scholarly concern for their abuse of historical affairs.
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Most Muslim clerics are usually busy to pray and do not necessarilly watch Western medias, I don't know if they ever heard about this cult. However, some Muslim intellectuals who live in the West have an opinion. By Selma
Cook, on the website of
The Islamic Garden
The nation of Islam - fact
or fraud??One of the
biggest frauds of our time, is being undertaken by a group who
call themselves the 'Nation of Islam!' They and their teachings
have nothing to do with Islam and it remains a mystery why they
insist on being called thus. Their association with Islam can be
likened to a person going into a department store and buying a
dish washer. Then the salesperson returns with a washing machine.
When questioned about this strange response, the salesperson
replies, 'But it looks the same! The body is square and it
washes, doesn't it!?' The reality is that the inner workings of
the machine are different and cannot be used for the same
purposes.
As much as the
ideas and teachings of the NOI are strange and incoherent (), so is
the fact that such a large amount of human beings from the so-called
most 'civilized and developed' country in the world choose to
follow it! Strangeness is often attractive to desperate people,
who can see no other way out of their dilemma except through a
fanciful mouthful of lies and exaggerations. Perhaps it brings
them, for a moment, out of the mundaneness and injustice of the
modern world into the realm of fantasy and fiction; taking them
from the depths of human degradation to 'god hood'.
Needless to say,
Wallace Dodd Ford (the founder of the NOI) was well-equipped to
lead his host of millions through the fanciful realm of the
ludicrous, as he was in fact an inept con-man, who finalized his
training in the art of fraud and deceit in Prison. Upon his
release he fell upon a deceiver of an even higher degree, whom he
later named Elijah Mohammad and by combining their ingenious
potential for evil and fraud, devised a plan, doctrine and
methodology to raise the esteem of the oppressed people to the
heights. He simply called these misused, oppressed masses 'gods'
in their own right. Now that surely seemed like a no fail plan.
http://www.islamicgarden.com/article1037.html
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There is a surprising amount of scholarly tolerance for Black supremacist psuedo-history.
I work on a daily basis with a Black African scholar who's in the field of Black European studies. Occasionally assisting him, I've come into contact with some of the literature and while many of these books are critically acclaimed and written by moderate historians of Black history, they still operate with a number of misunderstandings, exaggerations and oversimplifications that I suspect they are only able to get away with unmolested because most scholars avoid the quagmire of complications they risk by exposing them.
Typical is the definition of everything non-European as Black, for apparently everyone turns Negroid the moment you cross the Bosphorus or the Ural mountains. Also typical are gross exaggerations of "the Black achievement", if you will, by either redefining non-Negroid populations as Black or exaggerating the impact of Sub-Saharan Africans outside of their region. Opposing views tend to be undermined not by deconstruction of the arguments, but by associating them with racism and imperialism.
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Posted: 19-Mar-2009 at 11:15 |
Thanks for the genes, Jack, they work great Yes the fantastical wishful thinking of NOI's early thinkers certainly resulted in a lot of nonesense. I wonder if clerics in the mainstream Islamic world have gone to the effort of disowning/refuting this group out of scholarly concern for their abuse of historical affairs.
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Posted: 19-Mar-2009 at 09:19 |
Originally posted by pebbles
Kathy Najimy is also Lebanese-American,a well-known name in American entertainment.She looks typical Arab,don't have " black appearance " fit their Afrocentrism agenda !
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She doesn't look Black at all...
Even Gabriel doesn't look Black, it is rather partially Black women who look like her, and they're not Black but mixed people. Some frustrated Black supremacists say they're proud of the Black "race" while they always label as Black people in the sense of race not only culture, some mixed light people who have non-Black blood, which shows they like to identify with lighter people because they dislike their own appearance...
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Originally posted by goldenstar
Some Afrocentrists on youtube too claim Semitic Phoenicians were Black people, because Lebanese Brigitte Gabriel (a Christian extremist) looks like a Black woman according to their definition...
Briggite Gabriel - Beautiful Black Phoenician Nationalist Phoenicians were Black! All Whitewashers try to hide to the true Phoenician identity of Lebanon The Original Pheonicians were Black people who got destroyed by the ancient Arab terrorists.
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Kathy Najimy is also Lebanese-American,a well-known name in American entertainment.She looks typical Arab woman,don't have " black appearance " fit their Afrocentrism agenda !
Edited by pebbles - 19-Mar-2009 at 09:14
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