Did Attila encounter racism while in Rome?

Originally posted by Temujin but you're aware that Markomanni, Quadi and Alemanni etc all were Suebi? and that Romans fought them more than any other Germanic tribe? i mean Franks and most of the other Germanic tribes took Roman lands almost unopposed at the end of Western Rome, while Suebi and related tribes were constantly beaten back during Rome's better days. were they not as close to Rome and such a threat to them as it was, and did they have come late like the others, they would have carved out a much larger empire than they actually had.

Actually you make a good point here, the Ostrogoths and Visigoths  and Franks had an easier time of things later in history.

Originally posted by Temujin Originally posted by Constantine XI Even a tribe as minor as the Suebes ahem... "minor"?

They weren't as numerous as say, the Ostrogoths or Visigoths. Their kingdom within the Roman borders was a relatively small one.

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Edited by Vorian - 27-Mar-2009 at 20:36

Originally posted by Temujin Originally posted by Leonardo Attila and the so-called Hunnic Empire were only a detail in history. They left nothing worth a mention. Period. tell that to the inhabitants of Venice...

We can credit him with gutting Aquileia, but the survivors of that poor city deserve the credit for turning a heap of sandbanks into the marvel of Venice.

One has to admit, for all their potential, the Huns were one of the most underperforming of 'barbarian' people. Even a tribe as minor as the Suebes managed to establish their own independent homeland within the borders of the Roman world. They destroyed the most, preserved the least, and invented nor contributed virtually nothing during their flourish on the stage of history.

Originally posted by Temujin Originally posted by Leonardo Attila and the so-called Hunnic Empire were only a detail in history. They left nothing worth a mention. Period. tell that to the inhabitants of Venice...

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Originally posted by Leonardo Attila and the so-called Hunnic Empire were only a detail in history. They left nothing worth a mention. Period.

tell that to the inhabitants of Venice...

Attila and the so-called Hunnic Empire were only a detail in history. They left nothing worth a mention. Period.

Originally posted by Reginmund In Attila's time an average peasant in the Roman Empire got by on a subsistence minimum,

"But, perhaps it is also the racism he encountered growing up amongst Romans that led him to a later path of anger, destruction and hate."

No hate and no anger. He wanted to demolish the evil and barbaric roman empire, who slaved half of europe. He came to free the tribes of europe. Thats why 60kings and high ranked tribe leaders were serving Attila.  He wanted to put an end of this empire what was based on slavery and corruption. Its not an offense againts nowdays italians, but thast the truth. teh rooman empire was no good for europe. Before the roman empire started to grow, all european people were forming tribes, and libve that way. nobody thought about making empire and slave the people there..

…Attila, rex hunorum, medorum, gotorum et danorum…"

---Attila, king of huns, medians, goths, dans (danish , but it referred to nordic people)---


Edited by Hungo - 25-Mar-2009 at 08:35

I believe there were stereotypes about groups of people asserting an inherent biological (and moral, intellectual, etc.) superiority to a group as opposed to others, most often was about Self (or Own Kind) vs the Other, in this case the barbarians were often what Romans were not. I also believe the characteristic was not bound to only one ethnic/cultural group, but there were persistent images surviving many centuries and applying to various Others.