Greatest Rulers of Germany

Living in rural Canada, german is not offered unfortunately so as you can see, my grammar is quiet poor I speak german at home and I try my best to sound out my words into writting...heh One can only try one's best. Once again, I appreciate you komnenos for answering the real content of my last post (COUGH COUGH(take the hint tumujin))and tHanks also for so politely correcting my german spelling 

Vive la coop�ration puis l'aide lorsque c'est n�c�ssaire!! 

PS to komnenos: I do believe I have corrected most of the errors; plz do check it out to make sur its understandable now. THere's nothing worse than the embarassement of incorrectly spelled words!

that shows your knowledge on the subject...

dude, the western part of Prussia (Rhineland) is majorly Catholic whereas eastern Prussia (original Brandenburg-Prussia) was majorly Protestant. and W�rttemberg contrary to your believe was Protestant, not Catholic...so much for your theory...and when we're at it, the original Prussia was still greatly agricultural in nature while the west was heavily industrialized in the 19th century, so prussia itself isn't even economically unfified! so what was your argument pro-unification again...?

maybe i'll ask some Poles to join my club of libertarian rednecks then...

who needs indedpendence anyways? thats for sissies, Germany is a place for dumb sheeps that like to follow nationalist leaders like Bismarck. remember the Jedi mind trick? it only works for the weak minded...

your missing the point, i was merely pointing out the regional differences within Germany as a whole and Prussia, lumping three random countries together to prove your point is a manipulation of facts, the German countries opposing Prussia in 1866 were the kingdom of Hannover (Protestant), kingdom of Saxony (Protestant) kingdom of Bavaria (catholic), kingdom of W�rttemberg (protestant) grand duchy of Baden (catholic) grand duchy of Hessen-darmstadt (protestant) adn the electorate Hessen-Kassel (protestant). so out of those 7 countries only 2 were catholic....

with that you can justify Imperialism in general...don't forget, Welthandel in the 19th century is Imperialism 

but how economical demands justify political annexation of other countries still evades me....

wow, good ol national pride eh? I'm sorry my friend but I do believe you've just shot yourself in the foot

And if you're trying to claim in any way that working alone is more practical than  team work (which is the basic concept here) than I don't know what they've taught you ppl in school but it saddens me. If Germany had been united since day one, so in other words united foillowing the thirty years war and not splinterred into hundreds of tiny states; where each was trying to obtain the wealth of France by taxing it's meagre ppl excessively to the point where full out emigration to America was in process, then much of the following would not have taken place:

"Do u have any idea what the german people went through while not unified?

All of eastern France used to be german lands, much of poland, the check republik, and even as far as russia were all german at one point as well, and when I say german I mean the majority of the inhabitants were german speaking. But through being not unified other nations forced the german people off their land and into already crowded places. The seperated weak german states were extremely easy land pickings, and as land targets they served. Unification brings strength of numbers. THe german unification was the most essential thing ever to come by that country, had they not unified the german language might not even exist today, and it's ppl without rights dominated by neighbour imperialistic powers who would have conquerred the tiny states long since. That or mercantilised them like colonies."

(I ahve this perfect image I scanned that I'd like to post, none of the uploading stuff works, could someone help me with this?) (It shows all the areas in the states that are of german descent and it's like more than half of the place it seems, I could really use thast to prove my next point, it's saved under the wrong file type and I dunno how to switch it over)

And I forgot to mention here that almost 40% of modern day ethnic USA (according to "THe Human Mosaic: A thematic Introduction to Cultural Geography", a university text) is of german descent. A matter of fact when the united states declared independance from great Britain, they had a vote to decide whether the national language would be german or english, and it would have been german had the germans themselves not voted english. They did this in order to forget their past and old homeworld, which was a land of political, social, and religious devide characterized by hunger, poverty and persecutions of all sorts and of constant inter state war with their own countrymen.

You have to kind of wonder if this perfect ununified germany you two speak of was truly that great, if it led thousands of innocents citizens to leave and journey accross the stormy atlantic to work the rest of their lives in a foreign land to pay off the collosal debts of the voyage over. Come on people, it's obvious the german states let their people down, and it's obvious that if germany had been unified many of these conflicts back home would not have taken place and maybe there would have been a german colony in america for german emigrants to go to. The unification in 1871 was extremely late but as the saying goes "better late than never". It was high time the germans put their foot down and stood for their culture, their language and their identity.

your basically saying the EU is an attempt to politically annex all of europe? and subesequetnly the whole world? this more or less comes down to the question if you're pro-Globalisation or not, and i'm against, simply because the small countries and cultures tend to dissapear from history...

remember, i wouldn't have said anything against a unification under the conditions of 1848, or at least a free election of the German emperor...

and for Golden Phallanx (btw, Phalanx is spelled with just one L)....by now i would simply call you a Nazi, because that's what your saying, but you simply just don't know better...you said something about going to the library in your previous posts...do that.

and a word about the Polish territories...one part of the Bismarckian legacy was the forced (!) Germanization of the by that time still culturally Polish living in that territories... Mosquito can tell you something about that....
and i know some people from there (Silesia), they have not deserved being called Poles because that's not what they are, Poles are better than that.... or as i always use to remark, they're more German than native Germans...

These were completly germanic lands before the fall of the roman empire.  I was also generalizing things for your sake.

30 years war. THe entire German border with France was pillaged to the point where 80% of the population had been killed by either french imposed slaughter or the cold when winter arrived after all homes had been destroyed. They consequently "ran away". France annexed much land throughout the post -30 years war period. (The pillaging isn't the point here it's the land being annexed afterwards through not being united) Matter of fact why don't we skip to Napoleon days, here's a classic example; How did Napoleon manage to just twaddle accross Germany? You don't suppose maybe the germans would not have been oppressed so if they had a unified country to defend them eh? (Don't even mention the holy roman empire, that wasn't an empire and the emperor couldn't do anything beyond his own castle.) If you want to contest this bring it on.

The basic point here is I'm saying through not working together we are all hurt, and that working together is always a better solution than being thick headed and beleiving one can take everything on by oneself. THat's all I'm trying to say. I'm sorry if this gravely offends any of you but if it does, oooo man...... You guys seriously missed out on an important toddler lesson.

What country? There was no country!! THat's the point! Much of german speaking lands had already been eradicated. Why would it end there?

what the hell are you even talkign about? you say that in every second post but there was no opression and there was no suffering. period.

you sound like a Communist history book!

guy, you're too young for this, i've ever since had read about the 19th century Germany. i've had this in school, one year alone on 19th century Germany, and i've ever since had an urge to read upon the events that lead to the dissapearance of my country as an idnependennt country, in fact this is the period in history i know most about, there's no way you can tell me about that you think is history, the point is you have got the bit of information you fill every of your post with (we read the same from you in every post, so this is obviously the only thing you think to know about Germany at all) from old German history books fileld with Prussian propaganda from teh 19th century..thsi was commonplace back then, just look at the British made "Vikings have horned helemts thing" and this is basically what your writing in every post you've made so far, so stop makign a fool out of yourself!