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Originally posted by Phallanx

Some sources that support his Jewish ancestry.

Ataturk, The Rebirth of a Nation,
Lord Kinross, 1965, p. 437

   For Kemal, Islam and civilization were a contradiction in terms.
"If only," he once said of the Turks, with a flash of cynical insight,
"we could make them Christians!"  His was not to be the reformed
Islamic state for which the Faithful were waiting: it was to be a
strictly lay state, with a centralized Government as strong as
the Sultan's, backed by the army and run by his own intellectual
bureaucracy.

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Turkey, Emil Lengyel, 1941, pp. 140-141 

   During the early days of Kemal's career, many of his followers
were under the impression that he was a champion of Islam and that
they were fighting the Christians.  "Ghazi, Destroyer of Christians"
was the name they gave him. Had they been aware of his real intentions,
they would have called him "Ghazi, Destroyer of Islam."

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Grey Wolf, Mustafa Kemal, An Intimate Study of a Dictator, 
H.C. Armstrong, 1934

p. 241: 

   "For five hundred years these rules and theories of an Arab sheik," he
said, "and the interpretations of generations of lazy, good-for-nothing 
priests have decided the civil and the criminal law of Turkey."

   "They had decided the form of the constitution, the details of the
lives of each Turk, his food, his hours of rising and sleeping, the
shape of his clothes, the routine of the midwife who produced his
children, what he learnt in his schools, his customs, his thoughts,
even his most intimate habits."

   "Islam, this theology of an immoral Arab, is a dead thing." Possibly 
it might have suited tribes of nomads in the desert. It was no good for 
a modern progressive State.

   "God's revelation!" There was no God. That was one of the chains by
which the priests and bad rulers bound the people down.

   "A ruler who needs religion to help him rule is a weakling. No weakling
should rule.."

   And the priests! How he hated them. The lazy, unproductive priests
who ate up the sustenance of the people. He would chase them out of
their mosques and monasteries to work like men.

   Religion! He would tear religion from Turkey as one might tear the
throttling ivy away to save a young tree

p. 243

   Further, it was public knowledge that he was irreligious, broke all
the rules of decency, and scoffed at sacred things. He had chased the
Sheik-ul-Islam, the High Priest of Islam, out of his office and thrown
the Koran after him. He had forced the women in Angora to unveil. He had 
encouraged them to dance body close to body with accursed foreign men and 
Christians.

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Turkey,
Emil Lengyel,
1941, p. 134

   Kemal cared nothing about Allah; he was interested in himself
and in Turkey. He hated Allah and made him responsible for Turkey's
misfortune. It was Allah's tyrannical rule that paralyzed the hands
of the Turk. But he knew that Allah was real to the Turkish peasant,
while nationalism meant nothing to him. He decided, therefore, to 
draft Allah into his service as the publicity director of his national
cause. Through Allah's aid his people must cease to be Mohammedans and 
become Turks. Then, after Allah had served Kemal's purpose, he could
discard him.

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Ataturk, The Rebirth of a Nation,
Lord Kinross, 1965, p. 437

   For Kemal, Islam and civilization were a contradiction in terms.
"If only," he once said of the Turks, with a flash of cynical insight,
"we could make them Christians!"  His was not to be the reformed
Islamic state for which the Faithful were waiting: it was to be a
strictly lay state, with a centralized Government as strong as
the Sultan's, backed by the army and run by his own intellectual
bureaucracy.

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Oguz,

Well your comment about his being from Thessaloniki actually supports
the connection. If you ever look up the area his house was, you'll find
that it was right in the center of the Jewish community of Thessaloniki.

too many inaccurate infos in your posts.first of all Gazi doesn't mean
"Destroyer of Christians". Gazi is a title of a soldier who has been
wounded in a war like my father he has the same title because he got
wounded in 74 in Cyprus.

Ataturk believed in god no doubt but he wasn't a religous person, period.

I would like to point you out in two different views.First Arabs, they
didn't like him because he ended the Caliphate, change the alphabet
etc.now, the website you copy/paste those quotes strongly supports
these ideas.

http://www.ummah.org.uk/sultan/donmeh.html 

Second the jews, they were and still in search of famous, accomplished
people to see any jewish connection throughout their history.once they
found a tiny little connection they will use it until someone claims
the otherwise.that's why claiming Ataturk a jew isn't popular, even in
jewish community.I don't know about the Thessaloniki and neighborhood
where the house but living in a jewish community isn't something
strange if you are a bussinesman at that times.even today it is common.I don't know who 
Emil Lengyel is, 
he sounds like a Hungarian jew so it doesn't surprise me if he claims
Ataturk hated arabs and islam and the website supports his ideas
because it's an islamic website.

Edited by erci