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Ionian
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Topic: New map for balkans Posted: 15-Mar-2005 at 15:01 |
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dark_one
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Posted: 15-Mar-2005 at 18:24 |
*scratches head*
Is this satire? Nothing seems to have Changed there over the past few
days. And Kosovo is still no man's land, ALbania can't take it and
Serbia can't pacify it witht he UN there.
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Alparslan
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Posted: 16-Mar-2005 at 03:53 |
This map belongs to the year 1995.
It seems like there is no Macedonia according to this map which cannot be acceptable.
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it should be reunified Yugoslavia again.
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Cywr
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Posted: 16-Mar-2005 at 11:41 |
I like the plan from the Onion better.
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Arrrgh!!"
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dark_one
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Posted: 16-Mar-2005 at 18:57 |
Link please.
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Cywr
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Posted: 17-Mar-2005 at 05:55 |
Its in the archives, i think you have to pay for it, not sure.
http://www.theonion.com/
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Ionian
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Posted: 17-Mar-2005 at 06:11 |
Originally posted by dark_one
*scratches head* Is this satire? Nothing seems to have Changed there over the past few days. And Kosovo is still no man's land, ALbania can't take it and Serbia can't pacify it witht he UN there.
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what map u propone?
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Ionian
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Posted: 17-Mar-2005 at 06:18 |
Originally posted by Alparslan
This map belongs to the year 1995.
It seems like there is no Macedonia according to this map which cannot be acceptable.
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it should be reunified Yugoslavia again.
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in balkans we have enough states , why invent new?
i think is better 1 state for every nation..
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Alparslan
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Posted: 17-Mar-2005 at 06:23 |
Originally posted by Ionian
In balkans we have enough states , why invent new?
i think is better 1 state for every nation..
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Do you think Macedonians are not a nation?
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Ionian
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Posted: 17-Mar-2005 at 08:19 |
Originally posted by Alparslan
Originally posted by Ionian
In balkans we have enough states , why invent new?
i think is better 1 state for every nation..
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Do you think Macedonians are not a nation?
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'macedonians 'r not a nation.
they speak a bulgarian dialect. (60%) .and 40% speak albanian.
bulgarians to bulgaria.... albanians to albania
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Phallanx
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Posted: 17-Mar-2005 at 20:47 |
Actually the Balkans are at war, silently for now, but be sure of it, we are at war and it will show soon enough.
Just so you get an idea of what is really going on:
Source: The National Herald: English Edition
Published: February 24-25, 2001
Heres a sampler of the text that us meant to guide U.S. Marines about the countrys history:
The Macedonians are also a people struggling with their past. [They]
claim to be the ancestors of the original Macedonians that date back to
the 6th century (editors note: BC? AD? Who Knows! The manuals writer
does not bother with such details)Challenges have been made that the
Macedonians originate from the Greeks in the south (editors note: i.e.
the author is not sure whether Alexander was a Greek or a Slav)It has
become increasingly important for the FYROM to claim its history in
order to maintain its legitimacy. The Greeks contest the their name
however,, despite the myriad of problems facing them, the Macedonians
appear determined to preserve their own culture and peace.
Somebody should tell the Marine corps that they cannot be so lazy with
history and that impartiality has its limits. As Americans we cannot
corrupt world history and subvert even our own educational system (our
high schools still teach that Alexander the Great was a Greek) in order
to placate every grouplet that decides to rewrite history in order to
gain legitimacy.
The Pan-Macedonian Association of the USA and Canada has already
contacted the appropriate authorities in order to correct this
monstrosity. I hope the Marine Corps and all the other services heed
the organizations calls to see a correction in the reports next issue.
Just do a search for :
"US MARINE CORPS COUNTRY HANDBOOK -MACEDONIAN OCCUPATION"
you'll be suprized on what you find!!!
It seems like there is no Macedonia according to this map which cannot be acceptable. |
You've missed the whole point, FYROM was created for one reason. To be
annexed to Greater Albania (as we call it) or Ethnic Albania as the
Albanians do.The region was populated primarily by Bulgarians and
Serbs. However, ethnic Albanians today are rapidly constituting a
larger part of the population and with any luck (let's hope they have
none), will be able to wrest the province of the Former Yugoslav
Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) to add to their "Greater Albania," just
as Kosovo is being wrested from Serbia.
See what the following Albanian politicians have to say about Kosovo:
SOURCE: Kosova Sot, Pristina, in Albanian 13 Oct 04 p 3
Excerpt from interview with Naser Bresa, chairman of the Democratic National
Front, by S. Ahmeti: "Bresa: "Ethnic Albania can be created with us", published
by Kosovo Albanian newspaper Kosova Sot on 13 October
Ahmeti What do you offer to the electorate that others do not?
Bresa The Democratic National Front Balli Kombetar Demokratik - BKD in Albanian
is one of the youngest political entities in Kosova Kosovo and it offers
precisely what other entities in the Kosova Kosovo political scene have not
offered so far. We offer the fulfilment of the historic aspiration for national
unification, or said even more plainly, the formation of an ethnic Albania - an
aspiration that dates back to the time of Mithat Frasheri, Abdyl Frasheri 19th
century Albanian activists and all others that made huge sacrifices for our
national cause, like the nationalists and patriots of the National Front
platoons.
Source: Kosova Sot, Pristina, in Albanian 9 Oct 04 p 3
Text of interview with People's Movement of Kosovo chairman Emrush Xhemajli
by S. Ahmeti: "Xhemajli: Me prime minister, Gafurr Elshani president", published
by Kosovo Albanian newspaper Kosova Sot on 9 October
(Ahmeti) What do you offer in your programme that the others do not offer?
(Xhemajli) In the LPK's (People's Movement of Kosovo) programme for this
election, we offer our honesty and what none of the political entities which
have governed so far have offered until now. We are determined to realize the
declaration on the independent state of Kosova (Kosovo) and the creation of the
Kosova-Albania Union.
(Ahmeti) With which parties would you not agree to co-govern?
(Xhemajli) As the LPK, we do not even want to co-govern and be close to any of
those who are not ready to name this country properly: the land of Albania
divided in 1913, which wants natural unification and integration into Europe.
SOURCE: Kosova Sot, Pristina, in Albanian 8 Oct 04 p 3
Excerpt from interview with Party of Albanian National Unity (UNIKOMB)
chairman Muhamet Kelmendi by S. Ahmeti: "Shared governance unavoidable",
published by Kosovo Albanian newspaper Kosova Sot on 8 October
Ahmeti What do you offer in your programme that the others do not offer?
Kelmendi As a party, UNIKOMB offers a state through which we believe we can move
towards realization of the historic will of the Albanian nation to have a state
and be one nation. We do not understand creation of a new nation in the Balkans,
but we do understand unification of the Albanian nation, which is currently
separated and divided in various parts of the Balkans. Passage omitted
There are too many facts to support this map to be part of a real plan for territorial rearrangement of the Balkans.
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Posted: 17-Mar-2005 at 21:31 |
Kosovo to Serbia!
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Sarmata
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Posted: 17-Mar-2005 at 22:03 |
let Kosovo be an independant state that way whoever wishes to claim it wil go to kosovo hopfully make up some naitonal identity of kosovo, forget they are serbian albanian or w/e else and live peacefully over the kosovo question...giving kosovo to serbia or anyone else would most likely just start another conflict...
or just divide Kosovo...
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Posted: 17-Mar-2005 at 22:26 |
Kosovo is Serbian. UN needs to get out so Serbia can enforce order there.
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Posted: 17-Mar-2005 at 22:57 |
they should just merge the area into one big country and clone Tito to keep it in line.
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Posted: 18-Mar-2005 at 06:27 |
=Tobodai]they should just merge the area into one big country and clone Tito to keep it in line.[/QUOTE]
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Posted: 18-Mar-2005 at 18:38 |
Heh..albanian kosovo..how redicilously cute.
Kosovo is, and should be, Serbian. Enough said.
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Posted: 18-Mar-2005 at 18:56 |
Originally posted by Tlaloc
Heh..albanian kosovo..how redicilously cute.
Kosovo is, and should be, Serbian. Enough said. |
Isn't it quite simple? Let the people in Kosovo decide themselves what they want to be, Serbian, Albanian, Independent, or what ever else! Or maybe they could join Switzerland!
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Posted: 18-Mar-2005 at 19:03 |
Irrelevant. Even if the majority of people in Kosovo (read: treacherous Albanians) want to separate, they have no right to do so.
If a minority came into your country, and say a good amount of time passed, would they have the right to gain their independence?
They have absolutely no right to interrupt the status quo politically, socially, or economically because they feel they're better than the people who have historically had more claim to that land for over a thousand years. It is at our sufferance than we have allowed them to stay here, and it is at our sufferance that they are still there. The least they could do is stop burning our cultural sites, settle down, and accept the fact they're part of Serbia and not Albania.
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Posted: 18-Mar-2005 at 20:45 |
Besides, for all it's troubles Serbia is better than Albania.
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