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Poll Question: Which do you think is the best soldier of their time?
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    Posted: 28-Jul-2008 at 15:33

Which do you think was the best soldier of their time? taking into account tactics, scenario, terrian, armament, etc.

 
I'm going with the klibanophoros big suprise thereLOLSmileWink
 
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Edited by Count Belisarius - 22-Nov-2008 at 21:46


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Jul-2008 at 16:01
Pilots of strategic bombers with nukes.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Jul-2008 at 17:09
The one that never fought LOL
But what do you mean with: "the best soldier"? Courage, technique of fighting and I don't know what else?
I'd go for the samurai
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Jul-2008 at 17:14
No turco-mongol steppe soldier? I think an inadequate list
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Jul-2008 at 18:58
Sorry, I forgot the mongols.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Jul-2008 at 19:57
Steppe cavalry, kapıkulus, mamelukes for turco-mongol stock(Noatbly horse archers).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Jul-2008 at 22:01
Then click on, other.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Aug-2008 at 16:41

uhhm were the heck is the SAS on that list has to be better than the seals as many on secodment fail SAS selection also by definition to best soldiers have to come from the modern era a techniques training equipment and the humans themselves have evolved through history to become better

 

I know people will disagree with me on this though  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Aug-2008 at 18:51
Originally posted by Evrenosgazi

No turco-mongol steppe soldier? I think an inadequate list


your statement is incorrect and a couple of names should be taken down.

The Turco-mongol WARRIORS never fought for fixed pay neither did the samurai (except ronin) neither did the Knights


there is a big difference between Warrior & soldier


where are the Jannisaries?

they had one of the best training
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Aug-2008 at 19:03
Why is there no muslim terrorist?One man kills tens even hundrets before dying- no soldiers ever could do this. Dead
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Aug-2008 at 19:06
WW I have about had enough of your violations. Keep your muslim hatred to yourself and just answer the question. Best Soldier. For this and previous flights of fancy you have earned your first warning.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Aug-2008 at 19:14
Originally posted by Seko

WW I have about had enough of your violations. Keep your muslim hatred to yourself and just answer the question. Best Soldier. For this and previous flights of fancy you have earned your first warning.
 
 
 
And if i sincerely thought those men are the best soldiers ever?Millions of people around the world see them as soldiers,so why shouldn't i propose them as best soldiers ever?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Aug-2008 at 19:22
^thats it this guy pisses me off

hereby i would officialy like to report him
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Aug-2008 at 07:20
By now, Polish hussars are number 1. WOW! I didn't know that there are so many Poles in the forum. Witam rodaków Smile!
Most of nations believe that their soldiers were the best. I am not anexception, therefore I've voted for Polish hussars too. IMHO they were the best soldiers in XVI th and XVII th centuries. XVIII c. is another story.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Aug-2008 at 15:26
Hussars have nothing on the Cataphract.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Aug-2008 at 16:17
Originally posted by Roberts

Pilots of strategic bombers with nukes.
 
That will do nicely, unless you have to be ground troops to be 'soldiers'.
Originally posted by 02bburco

uhhm were the heck is the SAS on that list has to be better than the seals as many on secodment fail SAS selection also by definition to best soldiers have to come from the modern era a techniques training equipment and the humans themselves have evolved through history to become better  
 
And the last part of that is pretty irrefutable, though picking the SAS in particular may be bit far. Most modern armies have similarly trained and equipped units, like, indeed the SEALs. (But are the SEALs 'soldiers' - aren't they sailors?)
 
But, apart from the SEALs, if it's a question of facing any of the soldiery listed, I'll be perfectly happy doing so with a company of dug in modern infantry with machine-guns, let alone anything fancier.¨
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Aug-2008 at 16:26

Greek Hopolites are my pick. Along with German Armed Forces 1860-1945 and the IDF. What makes these groups elite is that they are the result of an entire mobilized society.  Many of the other options represented groups of elite professional soldiers.

Any society can raise small numbers of elite professionals. Mobilizing an entire society for war, including the unmotivated and undisciplined, and then consistently beating quality opponents is far more difficult.   
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Aug-2008 at 17:26
Hopolite's tactics were rigid and inflexible and only the Spartan's society was completely geared toward war and they were even more inflexible than other hopolite's and they lost a bunch of wars, and so did the germans. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Aug-2008 at 19:20
Originally posted by Count Belisarius

Hopolite's tactics were rigid and inflexible and only the Spartan's society was completely geared toward war and they were even more inflexible than other hopolite's and they lost a bunch of wars, and so did the germans. 
Yes, I am aware of their losses.  The Germans, however, created one of the most lethal military machines in history and won far more battles than they lost.  
 
All Greek City States mobilized their entire society for war.  All (or most) males were required to serve. Hoplite formations reflected the population of the entire city state. They were not small groups of elite volunteers.  Sparta just took the idea of the Greek citizen army to an insanely high level.  


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Aug-2008 at 19:25
No, the greeks drafted farmers for their army and you can't have a city whose citizens are mainly soldiers who will plant the crops? the spartans had helots for that but they were unique.


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