The Origins of Japanese people

Thank you. I foresee lost hours and strained eyesight.

Edited by vaffangool - 08-Dec-2014 at 02:33

Welcome aboard vaffangool.

Edited by medenaywe - 08-Dec-2014 at 00:32

I m from Okinawa and I have to agree with this.

I think my post is worthy of reviving this discussion 

I am Uzbek, come from Central Asia and speak its languages.

I will simply state the things I found out (and keep finding) about similarities between Japanese language and Central Asian languages:

Japanese:                                                               Central Asian:
"Kuro" - Black                                                         "Kora/Qora" - Black (Uzbek)
"Shiro" - White                                                        "Shir" - Milk (Tajik)
"sui/mizu" - Water                                                   "Suv" - Water (Uzbek)
"Hon" - A book                                                        "Hon!" - Read! (Tajik)
"Onna" - A woman                                                   "Ona" - Mother (Uzbek)
"Otou-sama" - Father                                               "Ota" - Father (Uzbek)
"Chorou" - An elder                                                  "Chol" - An old man (Uzbek)  
"Uchuu" - universe, space                                         "Uch, uchuvchi!" - Fly, pilot! (Uzbek)
"Sono toori" - That's correct.                                     "Shu to'g'ri" - That's correct.
"Damaru!" - Be silent!                                              "Dam!" - Be quiet/silent! (Uzbek)             
"Teppeki no" - impregnable                                      "Tepalik" - A hill, high ground (Uzbek)
"-dono" - honorifics for lords/masters                        "Dono" - A wise one (Uzbek)
 

....and many many more, just can't remember all right now


Edited by madao - 21-Jul-2011 at 07:47

Originally posted by Shield-of-Dardania you could imagine the number of descendants a group of, say, 50 Sumerians, would have produced in Japan in, what, say 4000 years ...

I see your point. 50 individuals or so is entirely feasible. 

Though I am not a believer in the Summerian connection, there was another documented non asiatic ethnic group in Japan known as Emeishi. The Emeishi were australoids and their modern relatives inludes the Ainu.  Emieishi tribal groups were gradually pushed into remote areas and were then absorbed by Asiatic Japanese in the early middle ages.  

Originally posted by keerisahaizu The Austronesian connection The Indonesians, Malaysians and Philipinos originated from Southern China. They migrated on boats via Taiwan and displaced the original inhabitants that might have been related to Dravidians of Southern India. We will see below that it is possible that some of these early Austronesians may have been the ancestors of the Ice Age settlers of Japan. From a linguistic point of view, Bahasa Indonesia/Malaysia and Japanese language share only a few similarities, but nonetheless striking ones. Apart from the very similar pronunciation in both languages, there is the same hierarchical differences in personal pronouns. For example "you" is either anda or kamu with the same meaning and usage as anata and kimi in Japanese. Likewise, the Japanese verb suki ("to like") translates suka in Bahasa. Such similarities are probably more than mere coincidences, and may reveal a common origin. Furthermore, in both languages the plural can be formed by simply doubling the word. For instance, in Japanese hito means "person", while hitobito means "people". Likewise ware means "I" or "you", whereas wareware means "we". Doubling of words in Japanese is so common that there is a special character used only to mean the word is doubled (々) in written Japanese. In Bahasa, this way of forming the plural is almost systematical (person is orang, while people is orang-orang). Expressions like ittekimasu, itteirashai, tadaima and okaeri, used to greet someone who leaves or enter a place, and which have no equivalent in Indo-European languages, have exact equivalents in Indonesian (selamat jalan, selamat tinggal...).

Originally posted by sure In the 3 East Asian nationals ,  Koreans and Continental Chinese especially the ones in North  look rather similiar than Japanese to my eyes.

Yup, check the Y-DNA profile of Korean people, they match up perfectly well with these NE Chinese specially Manchus.

Check mt-DNA of Korean people, match perfectly well with Japanese people, specially these from Kyushu and main island of Japan, often called Hondo Japanese.

Another interesting topic. But we all know Japanese are just another East Asian.
Nothing new.

Study from http://www.kumanolife.com/History/dna.html
is known to be biased and unscientific.
Please note there is no specific genetic markers for Chinese, Japanese or Koreans.

The rules of thumb is Japanese are closely related to these with East Asian group. Noticeably Koreans. In terms of linguistically and genetically, two people does resemble each other.

Compare the y-DNA and  mt-DNA of Korean people with Japanese.
Koreans
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=2615218&tool=pmcentrez

Japanese
http://www.jref.com/culture/origins_japanese_people.shtml

You will be surprise to see mt-DNA from both Japanese and Koreans share common grounds.
I would say, Koreans really don't have blood relation with Japanese, it's more Japanese have blood relation with Koreans due to early migration pattern.