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    Posted: 14-Mar-2005 at 05:11

Flexion based artillery-Arrow

The gastraphetes ,a form of primitive crossbow that fired a wooden bolt on a flat trajectory along a slot among in the aiming rod.Could reach a bow length of 15 feet and could fire a stone of 40 pounds some 200 to 300 yards.Mainly known from Heron of Alexandria references.It was used succesfully during the siege of Motya(Sicily) in 397 BC and the Hellen engineers improved further the capabilities of the device reaching its physical limitations.

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This picture with the above one is an Oxybeles(Hellenic word that means bolt shooter)

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Zopyrus's gastraphetes from Zopyrus a specialist in gastraphetes design from Tarentum Southern Italy.

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Stone

The stone thrower of Charon of Magnesia

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Torsion based Artillert

Torsion catapults probably around 340 BC.Inscriptions from the Chalkothek on the Acropolis of Athens mentions torsion spring catapults at about 330 BC.Oxybeles could pierce a shield and armor of a warrior in 400 meter distance.

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Euthyntonon-Light arrow catapult

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Palintonon(or Ballista in Roman)

Heavy Artilley Weapon up to 3 tons weight(Transport in pieces).13 kg stone(Two lever) Around 335 BC.

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Palintonon again.....

 

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Cheiroballista(Two level)

The Cheiroballista (called Manuballista by the Romans),a device that hurls arrows over a large distance.Some say that it was actually written around 100 AD(after Heron).As an inventor Apollodorus of Damascus is proposed working for the Roman army.

 

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  Quote Spartakus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Mar-2005 at 05:52

Famous Catapult Engineers:

Polydias,Diades of Pella and Charias(working for Phillip and Alexander the Great).Diades helped Alexander at the sieges of Halicarnassus(334 BC) and Gaza(332 BC).

Zopyrus,Charon of Magnesia,Philon of Byzantium,Biton,Ctesibius of Alexandria,Archimedes of Syracuse.Dionysus of Alexandria,Hero of Alexandria,Vitruvius.

(Heron,Philon,Biton and Vitruvius are the main sources of information about ancient Catapults) 

 

 

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  Quote Spartakus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Mar-2005 at 05:59

References:

E.W.Marsden,Greek and Roman artillery:Historical development(Clarendon Press,Oxford,1969)

E.W.Marsden,Greek and Roman Artillery:Technical Treatises(Clarendon Press,Oxford,1971)

Biton,Belopoietics

O'Connel,Robert L. Soul of the Sword.New York:The Free Press 2002

D.L.Simms,Archimedes' weapons of war and Leonardo,British J.Hist . Sci. 21(1988) 195-210.

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Impressing!

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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Mar-2005 at 19:13
One shot a WOODEN bolt! Ouch that can leave one bad splinter.
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  Quote eaglecap Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Mar-2005 at 21:49
What is your source for this? Can you post the link?

very interesting!!

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  Quote Phallanx Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Mar-2005 at 06:40
What is your source for this? Can you post the link?

very interesting!!



Not sure what you find so funny?
Anyway, I think his source may be mlahanas.de, a very informative site, that has alot of well established research.

http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/war/CatapultTypes.htm
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That's my source.
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