Greek presence in Iran since 2nd millenium B.C.

Originally posted by norsken Originally posted by Vorian I must have seen this girl about a million times on the inernet. You may have seen Farah Pahlavi, the Shah's wife. She is also from Gilan and she has also Parthian origin.

Inja ro dige sooti dadi!
Farah Pahlavi has Azari origin and nowadays there is no such a thing as Parthian, Sassanid or Achaemenid origin. Farah's mother is from Gilan.

Originally posted by Suren Originally posted by norsken Originally posted by Vorian I must have seen this girl about a million times on the inernet. You may have seen Farah Pahlavi, the Shah's wife. She is also from Gilan and she has also Parthian origin. Inja ro dige sooti dadi! Farah Pahlavi has Azari origin and nowadays there is no such a thing as Parthian, Sassanid or Achaemenid origin. Farah's mother is from Gilan.

Please write in English. Farah Pahlavi is not related to Azeri Turks. Her son Reza Pahlavi is related to Azeri Turks because of Shah's Family. Farah Pahlavi is from Gilan. A comparison of Pictures of Persians and Azeri Iranians classify Farah Pahlavi as Persian and secondly as a Persian with Parthian origin.

By Parthian we mean Urbanized Scythian. We are not refering to any government or dyansty.


Edited by norsken - 09-Sep-2008 at 01:09

Originally posted by norsken Originally posted by Suren I think Norsken has a grudge toward turks and Azaris. Maybe he had a bad experience about them. Grudge or no-grudge. Please discuss the issues. Iranians such as Mr. Suren believes that everbody in Iran is a Mede. Then they equate medes with Iranians(Azeri Turks) and call it an Iranian race. All Iranians are supposed to look like turks. That is why they reject any Persians exist in Iran. I am a native Persian and look entirely different from Iranian turks.

You will not hijack this thread anymore with this racial myth rubbish. I simply will not allow you to. Get it?

No one reply to these divergence posts.

Originally posted by norsken Originally posted by Suren I think Norsken has a grudge toward turks and Azaris. Maybe he had a bad experience about them. Grudge or no-grudge. Please discuss the issues. Iranians such as Mr. Suren believes that everbody in Iran is a Mede. Then they equate medes with Iranians(Azeri Turks) and call it an Iranian race. All Iranians are supposed to look like turks. That is why they reject any Persians exist in Iran. I am a native Persian and look entirely different from Iranian turks.

Originally posted by Flipper if you ask me that village looks like a typical Epirotan village in the Pindus mountains...So, what is your theory about this Kyros? I mean, how, when, what? It is a good observation i have to say.

Flipper I have been here before - The Vikos Aoos National Park.
The hiking is really good and within a few miles the area changes from looking like S. California, to Montana/Idaho, to the waterfalls of W. Virginia. I have pics of the mountains and the villages of Micro and Megalo Papingo. They are awesome mountains but still not as wild as the ones we have in the Pacific Northwest or as much wildlife- especially predators. I live on the edge of the Rocky Mountains.

Those pics from Iran really look like Greece.

The most ancient Gilaki sport is "Gile-Mardi" which is a blend of boxing and wrestling, more info in Persian language: http://sport.ir/index.aspx?siteid=3&siteid=3&pageid=799

It could be the same ancient Greek Pankration:

Its practice in public areas starts from June to September when harvesting the rice fields, i.e. shali-kari is completed.

The competition is usually held in a leveled and soft ground. They illustrate all around the field. It usually starts in the evening and may end up after mid-night. During the competition special musical instruments are played.

At first all wrestlers line up in a column and do special God worship. After the ceremonies of worship, each wrestler gets out of the queue and walks or jumps around the field so that everybody can see him and he himself can also get acquainted with the spectators. Weight and time is not important in this style. The elders and veterans usually judge the competition.

During the opening ceremonies first the novices, cadets, and junior athletes wrestle and then the famous wrestlers appear in the field.

At first a wrestler walks in the field and asks for an opponent. Another wrestler appears from another direction of the field. The two wrestler approach, and contact each other by touching their hands (jegal).

If the first wrestler does not want in anyway to fight against the opponent or thinks that the opponent is not in his class or dignity, or he can not to fight against him, he leaves the field.

The wrestlers with half-bent bodies approach each other waving their hands or their fists.

In case they need a rest, they clap their hands. Throwing fists towards each other is customary, is among the techniques, and the opponent must be ready to counter attack.

Edited by Cyrus Shahmiri - 10-Sep-2008 at 18:31

It's well known that around 1000 BC the Greeks colonized some parts of the Black Sea. Their expansion led to the first contact with Iranian people who were known as Persians in all ancient Greek history books. Before 600 BC, the Persians and the Greeks seemed to get along with each other. Things turned nasty when Persia began to oppress Ionia, causing the rebellion of Miletus... And the rest is history (300).