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 Topic: Floyd-Comfortably Numb....Posted: 20-May-2008 at 19:10 |
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....i also think A Momentary Lapse of Reason is a good album although i can understand why it receives the criticism it does, it would be pretty difficult for any band to reach the same heights that Floyd managed with 'Dark Side, Wish, Animals,' and 'The Wall, 'but that does not necessarily mean that 'Momentary Lapse' is a poor record...Learning to Fly and Sorrow are outstanding songs....
....hell, i even quite like The Division Bell, perhaps Floyd's weakest album.....having said that, Keep Talking is a classic and would justifiably grace any of Pink Floyd's 'classic' offerings.......i guess for me the single most attraction in Floyds music is the guitar work provided by Gilmour....i am a bit if a guitar nerd and i love the sounds that can be wrung out of the planks...and Dave Gilmour, in my opinion, is one of the finest experts at getting truly wonderful music from six strings and five fingers....
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Frederick Roger
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Posted: 20-May-2008 at 18:46 |
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I still find Syd Barrett's period a different band than the acclaimed space-rock giants they would become. It is as if they were two different groups. I still like the SB stuff (brilliant psychedelia in there - Pompeii fortunately displays some of it), but my love for Floyd realy reached celestial hights with Meddle, which I still find my favorite, although not their best - I have no problem in saying Dark Side of the Moon or even Wish You Were Here take that medal.
I also have a very soft spot for A Momentary Lapse of Reason, which I find (objectively) their best since Animals (another beast of an album). Yet somehow it gets a lot of criticism, and not all constructive.
Tool were for a while considered the new Pink Floyd, but I never saw much depth in that claim apart from them being a progressive rock band with popularity, like Floyd. Personaly if had to call them the "new anything", it would have to be the new King Crimson, due to their close relation. But I won't do that, as they are all-in-all two unique bands.
As for modern groups bringing to memory the sound of Pink Floyd, while there are none perfectly emulating them (nor would I want them to do so - in that case better listen to the original), there are a few who capture a lot of their feel in their own original (and, might I add, quality) work: Porcupine Tree, RPWL, Pendragon, Mostly Autumn, Anathema, Riverside, and more recently Pure Reason Revolution, all of these can be called heirs to the PF legacy. Edited by Frederick Roger - 20-May-2008 at 18:51 |
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Posted: 20-May-2008 at 13:59 |
....yes, KK's prog rock knowledge seems pretty formidable, its just that i have listened to quite a bit, out of curiosity, but it does not strike the right...er...chords with me....no doubting the talent involved thats for sure, but straight forward metal just hits the spot!!!
...Meddle is generally underated as an album but who could argue with 'One of These Days' (im going to cut you up into little pieces)... a pounding bass line from Roger Waters and overlayed with spicy, histrionic guitar work from Sir Dave of Gilmour....and it remained a regular tune in the bands set-list.....great version on the 'Pompeii' concert as well...
.......there are one or two tracks i like from the Syd Barratt-era Floyd, but generally, i prefer the later Waters, Gilmour, Mason, Wright team.... Edited by Act of Oblivion - 20-May-2008 at 14:01 |
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Posted: 20-May-2008 at 13:16 |
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King Kong of Music, you have good taste my man. AoO you could learn a prog thing or two from him if you dare.
AoO, takes a while to warm up to the Pompeii DVD, but it is all there. The reckless abandon of middle Floyd.
Favorite album - Meddle. This one took me by surprise. Folksy rhythm with a bombastic opener to progtastic finish in "Echoes". This is not a polished production like the Dark Side or Wish You were Here. Instead it needs a few replays to get used to.
Dark Side of the Moon and Wish You Were Here were audiophile favorites back in the day of the 33 1/3 lp. I still have my Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs pressings, warts and all.
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Posted: 20-May-2008 at 10:00 |
..hello again KK....
....when i first got hold of the 'Pompeii' concert, it was on video cassette and only contained the concert itself, however, some time ago i bought the DVD edition and this contained footage of Floyd working in the studio on what was to become 'Dark Side'. This included snippets of instrumental breaks, Roger Waters experimenting with 'synth' sounds, and various takes on guitar parts. While recognisable as the future 'Dark Side' it was interesting to see how these ideas were being developed and compare them to the end version that eventually appeared on the finished album.....excellant viewing if you are a Floyd nut!!! ....
.....though i recognise most of the band names you mentioned, i did not really get into 'prog rock' that much and i doubt if i would be able to recognise much of their music either, with the exception of Marillion, Rush and perhaps the odd Celtic Frost song...i do recall hearing a couple of Voivod songs many years ago, but again i did not really follow it up....i kinda go for the more traditional 'metal' music scene, the heavier the better and with crunching guitars!!!....however, i did go and see Asia once which included a lengthy solo spot from Steve Howe.....!!!....its funny, my dad had loads of Rick Wakeman albums when i was younger and although i did plunder my fathers record collection, i tended to go for his Santana, Tangerine Dream and Kraftwerk albums, and of course Pink Floyd.....my interest in Floyd was first bought about by the cover to the album Relics, it caught my eye then i listened, enjoyed, and then moved onto the other records.....so, i blame my Dad!!!!...
...AoO...
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Posted: 20-May-2008 at 02:08 |
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You say Tool, I say Primus.
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Posted: 20-May-2008 at 01:49 |
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I recommend Tool for Floyd fans. Not for the harmonic similarity but for the same approach to music, metaphors and lyrics.
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Posted: 20-May-2008 at 01:45 |
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I have to say 'Meddle' is my favorite. My friend used have that 'Live at Pompeii' on LASER DISK.
 Guess what we used to do after school when his parents weren't home? Don't get me wrong though, I see the beauty and the completeness of 'Dark Side' and social consciousness of 'The Wall' and 'Animals' and 'Wish' always gives teary eyes thinking about childhood friends. But I love the muzacality of 'Meddle'. And I always had a thing for epic prog pieces like 'Echoes'. That's why I love pieces like 'Starless' by King Crimson, 'Supper's Ready' by Genesis, 'Close to the Edge' or 'Gates of Delirium' by Yes, 'Lady Fantasy' by Camel, 'Remember the Future' by Nectar, '2112' by Rush, etc. Oh not to forget, 'Passion Play' by Jethro Tull. I even liked Voivod. Celtic Frost is another good band. Renaissance too. I like some German Prog too like Can, Novalis, Faust. Italian? New Troll and Latte e Miele. Those were pretty much all I ever listened before I got into Jazz. I highly recommend Mahavishnu Orchestra for Prog fans if you haven't heard of them yet. I wasn't able to to find and new prog bands. IQ and Marillion was alright but this fairly new band(new to me) Mars Volta just blew me away. Back to Floyd though, I do have a soft spot for 'A Momentary Lapse of Reason' too. Didn't Tony Levin sit in for Roger for that album? Tony Levin, my favorite bassist of all time. He also played for Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe instead od Chris Squire. Speaking of Bill Bruford, I shook his hand once, the ultimate wet dream of an amatuer drummer like me. I'm pretty sure he remembers that too. Edited by King Kang of Mu - 20-May-2008 at 02:05 |
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Posted: 19-May-2008 at 20:42 |
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The Wall is such a megalomaniac piece that it is quite common that a lot people don't like it. Most of the people I know who do claim to like it don't realy understand it, and simply say they adore it because it is such an unconventional and overwhelming rock album. Yet, as a Floyd fan, I still think it flunks musically, mostly because of Waters' domain at the helm of the band (The Final Cut will suffer from the same malady) - for me, a proof that while Waters was an excellent lyricist and had some brillaint ideas, he lacked a certain sense of musicality. It is no wonder that among a 26-song album, three of the four most memorable (Another Brick in the Wall, Hey You, Comfortably Numb, Run Like Hell) are composed by Gilmour (Comfortably Numb was actually a song Gilmour composed for his solo album a year before The Wall, but which Roger requested he save for the "band's" album). I'm glad it was so, since Gilmour's excellent debut solo album never really got much attention. Including CN on The Wall made the song a landmark, and it's solo remains one of the most influential in rock history, prog or not.
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Posted: 19-May-2008 at 19:06 |
...thank you Seko...i am just happy to find people who share the same musical passions!!!....
....and how annoying to have the guitar work curtailed like that, especially as that particular solo builds and builds and just has to be listened over its entirety....i recall the same thing when commercial radio stations play Sultans of Swing by Dire Straits and always, bloody always cut short the guitar work at the end of the song....swines...
 ....i know it is fairly traditional to cite Dark Side of the Moon as the top Floyd album, and i agree that it is a superb and defining piece of work, however, i would plump for Wish You Were Here as my personal choice, with Animals running a close second......next would probably be Meddle (the track Echoes is fantastic, especially the live version that is on the film 'concert' Floyd did in Pompeii).....
....Although The Wall contains my all time fav song, it would be a little bit down the list as i think some of the musical pieces do not quite measure up, it still is a great album and a very insightful concept containing wonderful moments of musical brilliance, but i believe it does not quite match the overall quality of the other albums i mentioned....
....So, thanks for your reply Seko and happy listening...
..AoO..
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Posted: 19-May-2008 at 18:30 |
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AoO, one can never tire of your threads, especially about music. Keep the memories coming.
Great tune. One thing I recall about that concert is when the local tv channel cut that solo short. I was fuming.
Now we can always revisit with youtube.
So, what is your favorite Floyd album?
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Posted: 19-May-2008 at 18:04 |
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...Hi there....
..i have been having a bit of a Pink Floyd day today, listening to music and watching vids on tinternet....
..one of my favourite bands and Comfortably Numb has always, always, been one of my top songs ever....so,.....i thought i would share this vid from You Tube of the re-united Floyd (minus Sid of course!!) performing the track at the Live 8 concert.....this version when i first watched it live, as it were, quite literally brought tears to my eyes...!!!....Gilmour's solo guitar work is just phenominal.....just another sad rock twit eh???!!!!
 .....well, here is the link......enjoy if your that way inclined.....
..all the best......AoO...
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