..I bought last week two Floyd CD's without entirely realising what they are. They are both "UMMUGUMMA". One is live and the other is a studio recording but not as the album was released. Do you want to buy them ? I'm happy to keep 'em but think that you might be more of a Floyd fan than I am. marlin@spugs.fsnet.co.uk
....Hello Nuvolari....
.....thanks for your kind offer but i already have the album in my collection....the 'studio' cd does sound interesting i must admit, but any spare funds i have are currently all chanelled towards my young son...!!!!...hence, my music collection has to suffer, and will for a long time i suspect..!!!!...however, i am sure there must be other Floyd fans on the site who maybe interested?...keep pushing it and you might find a buyer...good luck and thanks again...
..i have been having a bit of a Pink Floyd day today, listening to music and watching vids on tinternet....
..one of my favourite bands and Comfortably Numb has always, always, been one of my top songs ever....so,.....i thought i would share this vid from You Tube of the re-united Floyd (minus Sid of course!!) performing the track at the Live 8 concert.....this version when i first watched it live, as it were, quite literally brought tears to my eyes...!!!....Gilmour's solo guitar work is just phenominal.....just another sad rock twit eh???!!!!...
..well, here is the link......enjoy if your that way inclined.....
..all the best......AoO...
I bought last week two Floyd CD's without entirely realising what they are. They are both "UMMUGUMMA". One is live and the other is a studio recording but not as the album was released. Do you want to buy them ? I'm happy to keep 'em but think that you might be more of a Floyd fan than I am. marlin@spugs.fsnet.co.uk
...no worries KK....i am always prepared to give other forms of music and bands a fair crack of the whip, but i believe, that because music is such an subjective thing, i find it very hard to be, well, fair i suppose....i listen to what people have to say, take heed of recommendations and give it a go.....but sometimes i do not feel the 'pay-off'......you are now well aware of my love for Floyd, but some of my friends think the band produces really boring records...to quote one mate, Floyd is "coma music"...swine..!!!
...one thing i will say though, is that if i find i do not like 'listening' to certain songs or music, i do generally enjoy any live performances...for sure, if Crimson or any of the other bands you mentioned were playing live, i would gladly go along and watch.....i do tend to appreciate the talent involved regardless of my musical tastes....i find i can watch guitarists of any musical persuasion regardless of the style of music they play.....as a i mentioned before, seeing Asia was a good night out and Steve Howe's solo spot, was, well, pretty mesmerising, he played both classical guitar and the electric and all of it was superb....to counter that, i have seen many traditional 'metal' bands whose music i enjoy on record, but live, they have been fairly awful....so i guess it works both ways....
..the best thing about such discussions like this is people can offer up recommendations that would never be a conscious choice amongst other music fans, that way, we all get well-founded introductions to other forms of music that we would perhaps never hear....and that, i say, is a damn good thing...!!!
...right, must get prepared for the coming evening of footie!!!!
..spent some time going through some of the links you provided (thanks by the way)..
…..maybe its just me, but I could not hear the Sabbarf thing going on in 'The Knife' by Genesis…I know this will sound cruel, but it kind of reminded me of the ‘dancing dwarf’ bit during ‘Stonehenge’ in the film This is Spinal Tap….sorry KK….on the plus side, I really do like Peter Gabriel and I think the man has a great and distinctive voice, Biko remains on my top song fav list to this day……..
…..'One More Red Nightmare' by King Crimson was nearer to the mark for me although I doubt if it would command a regular sitting on the turntable!!!…there are odd moments of instrumental interlude that prick up my lobes, but the singing is something that grates on me (which is a bit rich I know coming from someone who likes Judas Priest, Ozzy and Motörhead!!!)….bare with me though, I am persevering with these tracks, but they just do not cut the mustard to these ears…..for me, the tunes are too ‘distracting’ in that they sound all over the place, this is the criticism I generally have of some jazz music, great talent is obviously on show, but I do need some form of structure……for example, I adore Script For A Jesters Tear by Marillion, a band who have been criticised for being Genesis clones, but I think Script is a sublime album, beautiful in fact, full of widdling guitars, long musical breaks, poetic lyrics, soaring, drifting, quirky, but the difference is that I get it!!!!….
….'Larks Tongues in Aspic Part II’ by King Crimson started off quite well I thought, but then appeared to lose itself, getting caught up in too much rambling about…..god, this must seem like sacrilege to Crimson fans, I know how I feel when people do not ‘get’ Black Sabbath…!!!!….
Thanx AoO, for trying them out. Hey, it's not like I made those songs or nothing. I just thought you might like them. I listen to them again with your comments in mind. I hear what you are saying. Perhaps it's not entire songs that could be related but few moments here and there. Also I see what you are saying about Jazz too. It's just that I don't necessarily see it as lack of structure but juxtaposition of multiple structures. So it makes sense to me that my love of Prog eventually led to my love for Jazz present day. Don't get me wrong though, I love Sabbath, Ozzy, Judas Priest, and Motorhaed, too. Actually I used to listen to lot of Yngwie Malmsteen and Gary Moore, too. But again that was already the beginning of my thirst for complexity.
Speaking of Spinal Tap, as funny as they are pretty damn good band, imo.
'No one knows who they were or what they were doing.'
..only had chance tonight to listen to Mostly Autumns' version of CN....i have heard of this band before but i had not heard this take on the Floyd classic....and its not bad actually, the female vocals gives it a 'folky' feel.....sounds a bit like Judie Tzuke? ....yeah, not bad at all.....will try to give the other links a seeing to some other time.....
I'm Hogarth's Marillion lover myself, never really got into the material with Fish - it didn't sound to me much different from other synth-based bands of the 80's, like Duran Duran and Spandau Ballett, and not better than those two either. Steve Rothery is one hell of a guitarrist, though.
In the meantime, I'll just back some of my modern bands recomendations with some YouTubin'...
Hang in there AoO. The Knife is a cutting menace (pun intended). Rough around the edges a bit being that it is on Trespass. With each album they reach deeper into more pure melodies (for a proghead at least).
Fish era Marillion is quite the band. Script on through Clutching at Straws is right up there.
..spent some time going through some of the links you provided (thanks by the way)..
…..maybe its just me, but I could not hear the Sabbarf thing going on in 'The Knife' by Genesis…I know this will sound cruel, but it kind of reminded me of the ‘dancing dwarf’ bit during ‘Stonehenge’ in the film This is Spinal Tap….sorry KK….on the plus side, I really do like Peter Gabriel and I think the man has a great and distinctive voice, Biko remains on my top song fav list to this day……..
…..'One More Red Nightmare' by King Crimson was nearer to the mark for me although I doubt if it would command a regular sitting on the turntable!!!…there are odd moments of instrumental interlude that prick up my lobes, but the singing is something that grates on me (which is a bit rich I know coming from someone who likes Judas Priest, Ozzy and Motörhead!!!)….bare with me though, I am persevering with these tracks, but they just do not cut the mustard to these ears…..for me, the tunes are too ‘distracting’ in that they sound all over the place, this is the criticism I generally have of some jazz music, great talent is obviously on show, but I do need some form of structure……for example, I adore Script For A Jesters Tear by Marillion, a band who have been criticised for being Genesis clones, but I think Script is a sublime album, beautiful in fact, full of widdling guitars, long musical breaks, poetic lyrics, soaring, drifting, quirky, but the difference is that I get it!!!!….
….'Larks Tongues in Aspic Part II’ by King Crimson started off quite well I thought, but then appeared to lose itself, getting caught up in too much rambling about…..god, this must seem like sacrilege to Crimson fans, I know how I feel when people do not ‘get’ Black Sabbath…!!!!….
..well, I gave this kind of music yet another go and thanks for trying to convert me KK, a commendable effort for sure, but I must remain for now, a ‘prog-rock’ ignoramus…!!!
……as for Mr Barrett, I guess that Arnold Layne would probably be a standout track, although I do quite like the ‘song’ Bike…
“I've got a bike. You can ride it if you like.
It's got a basket, a bell that rings and things to make it look good.
I'd give it to you if I could, but I borrowed it”
….the drugs in those days must have been in a different class!!!!…
Syd! Who doesn't have a friend who Syd-ed out? As much as I respect the skills of Gilmore and have a soft spot for 'A Momentary', it's still hard for me think of Floyd without Roger, and Roger without Syd. I wanna say to Syd what Don Mclean sang to Van Gogh in his song 'Vincent':
'But I could have told you Syd(Vincent), This world was never meant for someone as beautiful as you.'
I used to have his solo album 'Barret'. 'Aunt Gigolo', 'Baby Lemonade', 'Wined and Dined', Great songs!
As I've mentioned already it's not that I don't see the greatness of 'Dark Side', 'Wish', 'The Wall' and 'Animals'. Down fall of those albums for me is that they are so great therefore I've listened to them so much, it's hard for me to hear anything 'new' in those albums any more. As Seko mentioned those are well polished albums. On the other hand, 'Interstellar Overdrive', 'A Saucerful of Secrets' and 'Be Careful with that Axe, Eugene', I still hear something new every time I put it on. But then again like I said that's more to do with the familiarity, polishness of the albums than the greatness.
This one bar I used to go to had 'Dark Side' in their jukebox, if I'm drunk enough I would put on 'The Great Gig in the Sky' and sing it as loud as I can. A drunken Korean guy belching out that song in a crowded bar! It's a YouTube material, for sure.
Hey, AoO, I know you are a Sabbath fan. Check out this song, 'The Knife' by Genesis.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1OeW9avWWM
A live footage. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XhDHJNuyXw
Very Sabbathy in my opinion. It's pre-Phil Collins era too. Though Phil is a great drummer, I can't stand what he did with Genesis in the 80's. No wonder why Peter Gabriel had to split. Then again, Yes and Pink Floyd suffered more or less the same fate in the 80's. I did like 'Talk' by Yes though.
For more metallic Prog.
'One More Red Nightmare' by King Crimson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_nQZ-c96tc
'Red' by King Crimson from the same album titled 'Red' Though this footage is from 1995 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfuTY601eK4&feature=related
'Larks Tongues in Aspic Part II' by King Crimson also. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezZIxZsD6H4
Is it just me but I can't believe those songs were made 25 years ago.
I would also post 'Starless' but I can't find a good version of it in the net to do the justice. You just gonna have to buy that album 'Red'. 'Starless' makes me cry just out of the sheer perfection of it. Like looking at the Grand Canyon or Sistine Chapel or Jessica Alba.
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