Secularists to ban PM and ruling party

I say good riddance to the AKP!!! I could care less what Europe or the Arab world says  either. This is Turkey. Tough politics for tough situations. That party (AKP) is nothing more than a guise for Sharia pretentions.

 

Any time you have a party that is against education (AKP didn't want to accept the raising of mandatory miniminum grade levels in school) then I have a problem with that party. Any time that party spends more time on a self-made hijab issue instead EU negotiations, I have a problem with them. Any time you walk in the streets of Istanbul and see more and more black bags over women I have a problem with that party. To hell with that kind of conservatism. That is wholesale disrepsect to the customs and laws of secular Turkey. Though the issue of attempting to close a party (which Turkey is notorious for) is legal it is contrary to the majority of voters back in the last election. However, I think sympathies for the AKP has shrunk since then. Mine certainly have. Though seemingly undemocratic, closing this party is the best thing for Turkey.

I wonder by which authority have you given secularists the right to supress the rule of the majority of Turks?

 

you are simply doing the exact thing you say Islamists are going to do with these actions. Women wear hijab, which you call black bags, out of their own conviction not because they are forced to, Turkey is not Iran and most women who wear hijab belong to middle classes. I will never forget what a Turk said to me during last years protests when he saw with his own eyes a protester throughing rotten eggs on a woman who wore hijab and was driving a new expensive Mercedes-Benz saying she doesn't deserve the car.

 

If Tukey's secularists continue undermining the democracy, which originally gave the party just one third of the popular vote and thanks to interference they increased their share to 47%, don't be surprised that people will go to more extremes, Saadat Party for starters and the MHP. If the party is banned then Turkey is no differnet than Saudi Arabia. Both  both countries curb free speach, both countries are ruled by elites who see no farthers than their noses and want to impose their own way of life except that when elections were held 3 years ago, people actually voted overwhelmingly for people who are worse than the current regime.

 

AL-Jassas

 

 

 

The AKP won 47%, the MHP won 14%, Saadat+independent Turkey parties won 3% which means that conservatives won 64% of the national vote. All those parties and a significant membership of other secular parties support the move to lift the ban on Hijab in universities, the MHP is more openly islamist than the AKP and so is Saadat. So no, those who support Turkey's current direction aren't a minority as you say they are a majority and the AKP is the only reason why extremist parties did not win larger shares of the vote.

 

I am not a Turk but it saddens me that certain elitests in the society are willing to doom the country and feed the people on ideologies rather than on sound economic policies. Turkey in the 50s was in a better shape than Greece and now look where is Greece and where is Turkey. We in the Arab world tried feeding our people ideologies, leftists ideologies. Masses lead by "intellectuals" led lynchings against industrialists and large landowners in Syria, Egypt and Iraq and now look at those countries and what is the result? hideous poverty in the first two countries and a bloody civil war in the latter.

 

Finally, if the people know the real intentions of the AKP and support its ban, why did they overwhelmingly support the constitutional ammendements in the first place (69%) back in October?

 

Al-Jassas

Turkey is 99% muslim, this isn't a concern of the Arab world, most of the Arab world is secular aswell, none of Turkey's Arab neighbours have a theocratic state, neither Syria nor Egypt are fond of religous parties, the Muslim brotherhood has been in trouble in Egpyt countless times.

 

Turkey is on the path to prooving that religion and democracy is compatible, that the laicist system can accomodate muslims and that muslims can be modern, economically powerfull as well as have some respect for human rights.

 

You may or may not support AKP however, they have broken no laws and were democratically elected, this must be respected or democracy will be made a mockery.

 

 

 

As for the Turkish economy, unfortunately the situation is more fragile than you may imagine. Reforms have still not been completed and the current situation will complicate things even more. Turkey still heavily dependent on foreign investment which will run away because of the current climate. The reason why Turkey isn't Egypt or Syria is that Turkey was the darling of the west which supported it with all possible ways including coups (remember the famous "our boys have done it") and they did their best to help the Turkish economy. My sadness is not that I wish to see Turkey become an "Islamic" country because it is an Islamic country, it is because certain people there are willing to doom their country just because the majority of people are in opposition. One can't but remember that this was the reason for the fall of France when the right wing minority preferred the nazis over their own fellow country men.

 

And Felix, please read more about Turkey before making judgments.

 

Al-Jassas

 

Menderes experienced the boom years of 1950-53 with the election of the Democratic Party. This followed the recent importation of huge quantities of materials and machinery from the west after 1947. By 1954 the boom was over. The trade deficit in 1955 grew to eight times of that in 1950. Economic growth fell from 14% to 4%. It got so bad that in 1960 a Turkey's total external debt stood at one quarter of the gross national product. Another resaon, other than borrowing, was due to import and foreign exchange controls established in 1953. As a result inflation went up from 3% in 1950 to 20% in 1958. Demands to the IMF were eventually established.

 

Today's market economy is still attached to foreign investments. However, Turkey is number two in textiles to Europe and is very competitive in the home appliances realm. OF course the current political atmosphere will hamper speculation and investors in the stock  market. The value of the lira will be affected too. This is a worthwhile price to pay in order to clear the stench in closing down the AKP.

 

Al Jassas the only people dooming the country are subversive elements that would rather bring Shariah to Turkey and not abide by the Constitution (Ana Yasa). I agree with Felix in that corrupt (cahil) people have manipulated the poor.  The AKP's days are numbered. The quicker the better.