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    Posted: 19-Feb-2008 at 11:27
To blantantly promote the lastest incarnation of my website, I thought I'd start this conversations.
 
 
To be a historian, you just sit down and write a book. To be an archaeologist you study for years and then probably don't get the job anyway. To be an experimental archaeologist, oneday you just do it.
 
Does anyone else of this forum do it?
 
What are the pros and cons?
 
 
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  Quote Seko Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Feb-2008 at 14:40
Nice format. Great site. Good luck with it.
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I am working on making banjos and other folk instruments. I want to make a dulcimer.
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  Quote Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Feb-2008 at 21:54
I had to look up wot a dulcimer woz....Embarrassed
 
I can see the attraction, they're pretty amazing.
 
 
You could get rich off making these....
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  Quote Dolphin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Feb-2008 at 22:04
Just had a gawp at your site..They some pretty nasty looking weapons!
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  Quote Goban Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Feb-2008 at 14:38
I've practiced experimental archaeology before I even knew what it was. This is why the major fit quite nicely.Big%20smile
 
Pros:
-A lot of fun.
-Helps to better understand your archaeological research (at any level). It is nice to cite your own experimental research in a term paper.
-Meet tons of new people and help spread the interest in archaeology.
 
Cons:
-Time and money expenditures.
-Requires resources to develop skill level/experience.
-Sometimes it pisses off the neighbors, sometimes your own wife...
-Some people think you're weird.
-Dealing with other's spoiled children who won't listen to instruction (not using safety glasses, using up material they were instructed not to touch, etc) and finding out that their parents are just as bad...
 
There are more...but to me, the pros outweigh the cons even though they may seem much smaller on paper (although I am still new to the environment). 
 
 
 


Edited by Goban - 20-Feb-2008 at 14:44
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  Quote hugoestr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Feb-2008 at 14:44
Originally posted by Paul

I had to look up wot a dulcimer woz....Embarrassed


I can see the attraction, they're pretty amazing.




You could get rich off making these....


Yeah. My other dream is to build a hurdy gurdy, but that will take time.

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  Quote Goban Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Feb-2008 at 14:49
I forgot the best one!
 
Con: Being put on the spot in front of a very large group of spectators as if you were the expert and trying to teach that which you are learning as well.
 
Sometimes it doesn't help to know all the professors...
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  Quote Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Feb-2008 at 15:52
I know what you mean, they can be a little distainful of amateurs. One archaeologist I know did a re-escavation of a site. It had previously been escavated by antiquarians in the 1920's. The only mention he gave of the prior excavations on the site roports was "site sustained some damage in the 1920's"
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And it will lead to interesting results if future archaeologists discover your house:
"The maqaquitl was a weapon that was used in precolumbian Mesoamerica and early 21th century Britiain."
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  Quote Ponce de Leon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Feb-2008 at 18:44
paul. it is extremely simple what the pros and cons are. i cannot beleieve you havent figured it out yet. geez louis man!
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  Quote Temujin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Feb-2008 at 19:18
Originally posted by Mixcoatl

And it will lead to interesting results if future archaeologists discover your house:
"The maqaquitl was a weapon that was used in precolumbian Mesoamerica and early 21th century Britiain."


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  Quote Goban Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Feb-2008 at 05:29

This is actually a real problem within experimental archaeology. When you do something like flintknapping, you make sure to catch all of your debitage else someone may stumble upon your "site." 

So, we are extremely careful in this respect. In fact, tomorrow I am helping with a grinding experiment with the archaeological center. I'll let you know what we did if you want. It should be fun Big%20smile
 
Although, I'd imagine we will be working indoors because it's supposed to rain all this weekend...  
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  Quote Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Feb-2008 at 07:12
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  Quote Goban Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-Feb-2008 at 14:50

Like I thought, the experiment was loads of fun. I saw many people who I havent seen in quite some time, and yes, some even remembered my name. Big%20smile

The experiment was called Understanding Hunter-Gatherer Grinding Technology through Experimentation. The PI was Dr. Margie Burton. The experiment was moderated by Native Americans and Archaeologist, the PI and experts in ground stone technology- one person of special note was Dr. Jenny Adams. Ill go ahead and give her a plug for her book http://www.amazon.com/Ground-Stone-Analysis-Technological-Approach/dp/0874807174

Lecture topics ranged from classification, use-wear analysis, tribology, form vs. function, and ethnographic and cross-cultural analysis info.  

There were about 20 volunteers ranging in age from early teens to late 60s possibly 70s. We paired up and were given manos and metates or pestles and mortars that were prepared and photographed in their current condition. We each had to grind either acorns, seeds or clay for three hours and record our posture, motor habits, changes in product, smells and sounds (rhythm), grinding techniques, everything really..

My partner and I were given a very shallow granitic metate with a working surface roughly 4 in diameter, a granitic mano with sharp proximal and distal ends and flat sides to grind, and a bag of Black Oak acorns. With each of us using our own technique, I was processing fast alternating between pounding with the distal end and grinding with the flat. We ground large cleaned acorns into a powdery mush that smelled wonderfully like toasted bready nuts (I really would like to leach a pound or so and brew with it).  Or metate was ill suited for such production. Acorns often exploded everywhere and they were hard to contain and manage. While pounding, I sheared off a large flake off of the distal end of my mano and it, of course, wound up in my food with all of its mico-debris dust of course However, when youre using granitic tools you are going to get it in your food any way. That is why many had worn teeth (sometimes almost to the gums) but strangely, never had any cavities.. Wink    

Each of our experiments will be analyzed for use wear, our methods analyzed for effectiveness, and our tools placed in a reference collection for a comparative recourse.  

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  Quote Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-Feb-2008 at 16:00
Did the granite produce any silica dust in the air when grounding?
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  Quote Goban Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Feb-2008 at 00:58
Oh, I'm sure it did.  There's always risk when when knapping or grinding (pecking) indoors and with little or no ventilation. However, it wasn't that we were grinding or pecking out the metate, but using it to process food and clay. So, it was minimal.
 
we would've worked outside but it was raining pretty bad...Big%20smile Not that I am a wuss or anything. 
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  Quote Goban Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Mar-2008 at 18:15
Well, I just spent the last three days knapping, one day from 8 am to 10:30 pm. Although I am still not particularly good, my skills have grown considerably... Smile I also brought back quite a load of obsidian and meta vol for practice.
 
It was the best time I had in a long time. Big%20smile
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  Quote Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Mar-2008 at 22:06
Me too, I imported a huge lump of obsidian from the US. I'll show you mine if you show me yours.....
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