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to whom should Constantinople/Istanbul belong to

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Poll Question: what nation do you think Istanbul (Constantinople) should belong to
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    Posted: 13-Feb-2008 at 16:12
both nations hold a significant claim to the city and region, but which nation do you think should have the city?
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Feb-2008 at 16:16
its istanbul not constantinople. Says it all dos'nt it?
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  Quote Challenger2 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Feb-2008 at 16:53
Originally posted by Sun Tzu

both nations hold a significant claim to the city and region, but which nation do you think should have the city?


Whoever is strong enough to hold on to it.
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Feb-2008 at 18:18
One nation holds a significant claim to the city, the other that did stopped existing in 1453, the other splinter in 1463.


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  Quote Ponce de Leon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Feb-2008 at 18:37
I put down "other"

-because-

I believe it belongs to the Kingdom of Spain

Edited by Ponce de Leon - 13-Feb-2008 at 18:45
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  Quote Seko Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Feb-2008 at 18:51

Something like Istanbulopolucia?

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  Quote Ponce de Leon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Feb-2008 at 18:59
yea something like that
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  Quote Suren Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Feb-2008 at 19:37
It belonged to Eastern Roman empire. Since Roman empire does not exist anymore, Turkey which hold it for more than 5 centuries has the right. 

Edited by Suren - 14-Feb-2008 at 20:08
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  Quote Serge L Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Feb-2008 at 20:19
   Isn't it evident? It should be Italian since us (well actually our ancestors, the Romans) invented it Wink
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Feb-2008 at 20:37
Wasn't it a Megaran colony, thus Megara should annex it as part of their city. Its already on 3 sides of the sea, why not on a fourth one. LOL And then break free and form Megara Land. Confused


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  Quote Justinian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Feb-2008 at 21:16
Originally posted by Challenger2


Whoever is strong enough to hold on to it.
Oh well said indeed.  Realpolitik.
 
Realistically, only Turkey has a legitimate claim; now if the byzantine empire had survived in the peloponnesos and simply morphed into the new state of greece, then it would have a much stronger claim.  Considering this is the modern world one can't make claims on property that was lost 500 years in the past, regardless of sentimental or personal feelings with any hope of them being taken serious.  (though I will say WWII had situations where just that occured; based on the current situation only turkey has a claim, if something unforseen/unlikely were to happen that would dramatically change the situation then perhaps greece would become the main claimant)
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  Quote Lmprs Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Feb-2008 at 21:30
I am not sure about Constaninople. Whoever invents the time machine first should get it, I guess.
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  Quote erkut Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Feb-2008 at 23:53
İstanbul belongs to martians :D
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Feb-2008 at 02:06
Originally posted by erkut

İstanbul belongs to martians :D


To the Moon People actually LOL
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  Quote snowybeagle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Feb-2008 at 02:21
The only possible change in the future I could see is the city becoming a Free City, or an independent city-state by itself, due to its unique geographical position.
 
And this is only possible if nationalistic lines become blurred in convergence of economic blocks where regional economy becomes free to pursue their own developments instead of requiring to be tied back to the national economy.
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Feb-2008 at 09:24
Romania obviously...

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  Quote Richard XIII Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Feb-2008 at 10:25
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  Quote Frederick Roger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Feb-2008 at 10:53
It should belong, obviously, to Turkey. Along with the rest of the Balkans. Tongue

Edited by Frederick Roger - 14-Feb-2008 at 10:56
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  Quote Spartakus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Feb-2008 at 16:37
Nuh...it belong to the Russians.......
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  Quote Sun Tzu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Feb-2008 at 18:07
Well I don't know a whole lot about the Greek war of independence, but when the Greeks were victorius why didn't they take Istanbul??
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