What is the cruelest army on Earth?

Originally posted by Digenis Originally posted by Evrenosgazi Originally posted by Mortaza isnt it obvious? ottomans killed and raped balkans for 500 year or maybe 1000 year.   If we killed, raped for 1000 years I think there wouldnt be ANY other balkan states. Ottomans ruled well, there isnt any murders recorded. Read Colin Imber, Halil Inalc�k, Dimitri Kantemir, Alfons de Lamartine, Hammer, Babinger...... There wasnt any riot and because of this murder wasnt common. Balkan states lived in peace for 300 years, which they didnt see before and after

I am saying the authors name. I am not claiming ottoman army was angel. But how can they be worse than crusader and Mongols. They outclass the otoman army in cruelty. Digenis the ethnic composition in Balkan staes is similar TODAY. Especially the Orthodox Christianity take a breath with ottoman occupation. If there was no ottoman there will be a catholic state in balkans. When turks occupied Balkans especially the greeks, Bulgars show little resistance. And they were loyal until late 18th century.  

Pool is not objective, for exp: even I dont like USA army, It deserve 0 vote compared with other nations.

Some People voted country they didnt like.

 

Originally posted by Mortaza yeah, Ottomans were worse than crusaders, red army, mongols, and Spanish Conquisadors. After all, they killed all balkain people, plus some of europeans, also a lot nation destroyed under their rules. Becareful, wolf is still hungry.

(greek+armenian+serb+bulgar+persian),thanks for vote ottoman.

 

Hi,
Come on Evrenogazi how can you say "ther int any murders recorded"? It
is simply impossible. Hundreds of bloody events took place under
ottoman rule even if it was normally quite peaceful.
If only, what do you thinks the Janissaries were doing in Greece during
the 1571-1572 uprising? What have they done in Rhodus in 1522? And so
on...
Ottoman rulers were imperialists and you run an empire by being nice.
Bye.

Hi,
Why did I vote for the Ottomans? They are those I know best and then I
know some of the bad things they've done. But more deeply, they were
the "common enemy" of Christendom for over four centuries and they had
one of the best army all along and used it more often then not. One of
the reasons they were most feared was their method of conquest: sending
small groups of spahis or ghazis to plunder frontier areas during years
before the main invasion to weaken the enemy. Their corsairs were also
terribly feared (Italian mothers to keep their kids quiete told them
Barbarossa would come to steal them), anyway they were dreadful long
lasting enemies. And they became so while printing rised then many
papers developed during centuries the image of the big bad Turk creating
a topos of ruthless bloodthirsty barbarian. They were the infidel which
crumbled Christian states and almost invade the all continent, then
massacres they comitted were not simple war events anylonger but proof
of their vicious and cruel nature.
They were the mega-vilains of early modern Europe before becoming in
the 19th century these backward imperialists oppressing poor Arabs.
Surpisingly, this bad opinion staid vivid (see the reactions toward Turkey
in EU).
Of course anybody going to Istanbul realize how wrong all this was and
how mainy stupidities fear can create. But once the wolf scared you, you
shall always hate it dearly.
Bye.

Originally posted by Genghis Who are the fifteen people who voted for America?  I'd like to hear how we're worse than the Assyrians and Mongols.

And I am also curious why ottoman army is fiercer than mongols and crusaders

Who are the fifteen people who voted for America?  I'd like to hear how we're worse than the Assyrians and Mongols.

Originally posted by Maharbbal Hi barish, barish said don't get it, how is that related to Ottomans? a) it is pure bad faith from my part and I apology for it. b) Algier was an Ottoman dependancy. (anyway the book's amazing a real insight of 17th century warfare) Bye bye.

Sorry, but I still can't understand it.

[QUOTE=Ponce de Leon]Lol i dont know either "French people tend to be random sometimes "

Anyway, considering the "worst" army of history i would give my vote to those sushi-delicious imperial japanese. They DID experiment with many poisions and the head of the organization was...hmm leeme see...ahh an interesting group known only as "Unit 731" If you have the stomach(because the pictures and information they show you can really make u burst) then check them up at wikipedia, or google them. Damn they are something else



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Yes.  Like the Jewish counterpart, many Chinese civilian were used as  lab rat in the experiment by the Jap. Actually there is a movie made about that.  It is based on true event. It is entitle "Black Sun: Unit 731".

http://www.horrorview.com/Men%20Behind%20the%20Sun.htm

I once read a document said  many Chinese and Allies POW 's liver were being snagged and eaten alive by the Japs Captor and served with Sake.

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Originally posted by Maharbbal When the Spanish capitain Alenso de Contreras in the early 17th century stole the Hungrian wife of the King of Algier, the cuckold swore the day he'd put his hand on Contreras he'd leave him alone in a room with four sexually-starving big black slaves for a all night before killing him. (nothing racist here I swear it is in his memoirs). This is in my opinion proof these people were vicious and cruel... So long (I advise every body to read these memoirs). Bye.

I don't get it, how is that related to Ottomans?