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    Posted: 25-Apr-2005 at 18:32

 

For Denmark:

The most famos must be:

Hans Christian Andersen (1805-1875) -

His 200 birthday has been "celebrated" in the Danish medias for months now, so at the moment I get sick every time I hear his name. The 200 anniversary is simply to populistic for me.

 

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  Quote Mosquito Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Apr-2005 at 13:45
Originally posted by yan.

1+2 Franz Kafka

3 dunno

4 Isaak Babel

Isaak Babel? bolshevik and murderer who was writting "konarmiya" stories ?

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  Quote yan. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Apr-2005 at 18:50
Originally posted by Mosquito

Originally posted by yan.

1+2 Franz Kafka

3 dunno

4 Isaak Babel

Isaak Babel? bolshevik and murderer who was writting "konarmiya" stories ?

Have you read his 'Red cavalry' ?
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  Quote Mosquito Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Apr-2005 at 21:06
personally not, but i know what is it all about
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  Quote yan. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Apr-2005 at 05:56

Originally posted by Mosquito

personally not, but i know what is it all about

I see. It's because he was a communist. You probably don't like Bulgakov either, then. 

 

I'd say it's a must-read. IMO much stronger than Remarque's All Quiet on the Western Front, message-wise. Even the cleansed version for distribution in communist countries.

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Lol; how could I answer this?
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  Quote Temujin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Apr-2005 at 15:46
Franz Kafka is Austrian AFAIK.
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  Quote Komnenos Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Apr-2005 at 18:09
Originally posted by Temujin

Franz Kafka is Austrian AFAIK.


He was born in Prague in 1883 when it was still part of the Austro-Hungarian empire and died in Vienna in 1924, so technically he was Austrian indeed.
He wrote in German and my original question referred also to writers in one's mother tongue!
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  Quote Mosquito Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Apr-2005 at 20:02
Originally posted by yan.

You probably don't like Bulgakov either, then. 

If you mean the one who was author of "Master and Margaret" i actually like him.

But Babel is a different story. He was in the army which invaded Poland. He was working for CheKa. And the book was more a propaganda than literature.

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  Quote yan. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Apr-2005 at 06:20

But Babel is a different story. He was in the army which invaded Poland. He was working for CheKa. And the book was more a propaganda than literature.

Hmm, maybe I got him completely wrong? My impression was that what he described was the complete absence of reason (in the sense of Charlie Sheen in Apocalypse Now) and he actually made me understand why sane politicians dislike civil war so much, even in times of internal crisis. Definitely recommended.



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  Quote Behi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-May-2005 at 10:14

Originally posted by Oguzoglu


I dont understand why you people think Mevlana was Persian. He only used Persian language in most of his poems, but this doesnt make him a Persian.

& I don't Understand too why do you think He was Turk , If he was, Why he didn't use turkish Language, & why there is no turkish word in his poems &....

You know him turk because his shrine located at Ghonie

Molana was Aryan as me & all of his compatriot & whose that his book was elected as most favorite book in US few months ago

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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-May-2005 at 10:39

Writing in Irani doesn't make Mevlana Celaleddin Rumi Persian just as writing in Latin dosn't affect Erasmus being a Dutch.

In Mavlana's time, Turks were in heavy influence of Persian and Arabic languages.

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  Quote Yiannis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-May-2005 at 10:50

Originally posted by Komnenos

So all you foreigners out there please tell me:

1.     Who is generally accepted to be the greatest
        writer of your country and/or mother-tongue?
2.     Who is your personal favourite?
3.     Who is generally accepted to be your greatest
        living writer?
4.     Who is your favourite writer outside your own
        country and mother-tongue?

Short replies for modern Greece alone:

1. Literature: Kazantzakis, Empeirikos - Poetry: Seferis, Elytis, (nobel prices) Ritsos (Lenin price - yes Mosquito, he was a communist)  & Kavafis

2. Kazantzakis, Vassilikos, Tsirkas

3. Not sure, I don't read much of the moderns. Perhaps Nikos Dimou or Renos Apostolides.

4. Alber Camus, J.P. Sartr, J. Lacan, Oscar Wild, De Sant, James Joys, Douglas Adams (), Umberto Eco & Gogol. (and many more but I think these ones top the list)



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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-May-2005 at 11:09
Originally posted by YAFES

Writing in Irani doesn't make Mevlana Celaleddin Rumi Persian just as writing in Latin dosn't affect Erasmus being a Dutch.

In Mavlana's time, Turks were in heavy influence of Persian and Arabic languages.

Also, all of Mevlana's opuses are not in Persian.

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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-May-2005 at 06:47

So Atatrk was born in Selanik (Tsessalonika) which is in Greece, now. So what??? Belh is in Afghanistan isn't it? Melana immigrated to Meccah fistly and got pilgrimage thre and then settled in Konya (in Turkey) which was a multicultural city those times.

And as I said before, Persian language was dominant and was the Latin of the Middle East.

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  Quote Behi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-May-2005 at 09:33

~200 years ago England separate Afghanistan from Iran to defend India against France & Russia, Because Iran has close political relation with French.

Then There is no sign for you to entitle him as Turk, else you have hidden document that shows, all people of Balkh were 100% pure Turk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
DO YOU HAVE??????????

Originally posted by YAFES

And as I said before, Persian language was dominant and was the Latin of the Middle East.

about language case: if he was Turk, why did he forget his mother tongue & poem in Persian???
Why there is NO Turkish word in 26000 bait(line) of Masnavi???
Did he hate his mother tongue???
& make poem in Persian, that needs to be master in Farsi to make sounds of poem

Originally posted by YAFES

So Atatrk was born in Selanik (Tsessalonika) which is in Greece, now.

Nice Sample, If you like this way, people of Greece has RIGHT to called Ataturk as Greek.
I remember Ataturk was who had forbidden Sema dance.

I think it's enough, Our discussion is going to the wrong way.
You have closed your eyes & you don't want to believe in Facts.

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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-May-2005 at 16:58

Look this is quite funny, but you're giving your own answers.

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  Quote ulrich von hutten Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Nov-2005 at 08:55
first there is snorri sturluson who gathered all these storys of our history to
bring out the edda and snorra-edda. this manuscript from the 13.ct still exists in a museum in rejkjavik and last but not least haldor laxness who  get  the nobelprice of literature in 1955 .


         


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  Quote Ikki Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Nov-2005 at 19:52
1. Miguel de Cervantes (but i can't read El Quijote)
2. Antonio Machado (the very best, if you want know Spain by poems, well, the roots of Spain, you should read "Fields of Castille" )
3. Jos Saramago (i admire him)
4. Charles Dickens (absolutelly great)


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